[SML] OT: networking through 20 conductor wire from '70s?

Scott C. Parker scparker at gmail.com
Mon Dec 8 00:38:34 UTC 2014


I miss-counted. I have 12 wires running almost everywhere. The 20 wire run
is just to the NIB outside. Only 4 of those wires are being used for two
phone lines.
The more I read about the MoCA systems, the more I think I'm going to give
that a try.

Scott

On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Ben Hain via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> My house, built in 1968, has 10 or 12 pair phone wire. Not sure of the
> twist. Never used more than 2 pair. No sheathing, just the bundle.
>
> It was 'just' a farm home; not sure why my parents had it wired that way.
> Their electrician must have had grand visions of the future.
>
> Ben
> Rochester MN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net] On Behalf Of
> Dale Farmer via Stagecraft
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 4:33 PM
> To: stagecraft at theatrical.net
> Subject: Re: [SML] OT: networking through 20 conductor wire from '70s?
>
> On 12/7/2014 2:40 PM, Scott C. Parker via Stagecraft wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > I'm working on adding network points in my house. The house was
> > re-wired for phones sometime past, perhaps 70's, with a thick 20
> > conductor cable. Likely for mutiple phone lines. The 20 wires are
> > color coded in pairs, etc. but don't appear to be twisted pairs. Any
> > idea if this will work for whole house networking for computers?
> > I'm also thinking about using a couple of pairs for HDMI over Network
> > to get a TV signal from the living room upstairs to a bedroom.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> > I'd prefer to avoid fishing new wire everywhere. Yes, I could go
> > wireless, but wire is so much faster as I have thick stone walls here
> > and there.
> >
> > Second option is to explore Networking over Cable as the place is
> > completely wired for cable.
> >
> > THanks, Scott
>
> Phone cable uses twisted pair, but the twist rate in plain old phone
> cables was pretty low.   Catagory 1 actually.
> They did make ten pair cables, but they were pretty unusual. Commonly you
> saw the single pair or two pair, with a red/green and a
> yellow/black.    In the 80s up to now, two and four pair cable is
> standard in residences,  with white/blue, white/orange, white/green, and
> white/brown.     Offices wired with multiline phones used 25 pair gable
> or 50 pair cable.    Nowadays, multiline phones are typically running on
> regular ethernet UTP cables.  In the older days of the bell system, there
> were also six and eleven pair cables, but these were lead sheathed, and if
> you find them you rip them out and recycle them.
>
>      I will guess that this was some kind of home wiring job done with
> found cable.  So I wouldn't try to use it, except as a pulling string.
>
>    --Dale
>
>
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