[SML] Across the pond
Martin Petlock
martysrq at aol.com
Thu Nov 20 20:16:35 UTC 2014
Well gang here I am posting from Bath about 5 minute walk from Theatre Royal. Weather chilly (after 40 yrs in Florida) but nice. Strongbow called me home.
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> 1. Re: Tele-Q & Practical Phones (Joe Wilson)
> 2. Re: Friendly Bell (Joe Wilson)
> 3. Re: Tele-Q & Practical Phones (e-mail frank.wood95)
> 4. Re: Tele-Q & Practical Phones (Nigel Worsley)
> 5. iOS 8 wallpaper (Jerry Durand)
> 6. Re: Tele-Q & Practical Phones (Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center)
> 7. Re: iOS 8 wallpaper (Jerry Durand)
> 8. Re: University of Wismar (Scott R. Henkels)
> 9. Re: OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting and
> stagecraft" (Jacqueline Haney)
> 10. Re: OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting and
> stagecraft" (Jacqueline Haney)
> 11. Re: Tele-Q & Practical Phones (Joe Dunfee)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:08:21 -0500
> From: Joe Wilson <faderjockey at gmail.com>
> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
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> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Dorian Kelly via Stagecraft
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>> I thought the teleQ provided the line power as well as the ring power, no?
>
> No, TeleQ only supplies ringing voltage. It turns off when you
> release the button.
>
> I wonder if you could use a sound console's phantom power supply to
> supply the talk voltage... hmmmm.
>
> ~joe
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:27:54 -0500
> From: Joe Wilson <faderjockey at gmail.com>
> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: [SML] Friendly Bell
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> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jon Ares via Stagecraft
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>> Yeah, I don't understand why Scott Joplin music brings all the boys (and
>> girls) to the yard.....
>
> Late to the party, but NPR had an article that actually answered that question:
>
> http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/05/11/310708342/recall-that-ice-cream-truck-song-we-have-unpleasant-news-for-you
>
> ~joe
> _________________________
> Joe Wilson, ATD/Sound
> Indian River State College
>
> Adding one more "me too" to the
> collective internet consciousness.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:44:43 +0000
> From: "e-mail frank.wood95" <frank.wood95 at ntlworld.com>
> To: Joe Wilson <faderjockey at gmail.com>, Stagecraft Mailing List
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
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> Two problems here. First, while phantom power is at about the right
> voltage, it comes between both signal legs and ground. This would need
> a special adapter in an XLR connector. If you have a T-power option,
> as used by some Sennheiser microphones, this would need no special
> adapter, provided that the polarity was correct.
>
> Second, I doubt that it would supply sufficient curent for a
> telephone. Phantom power for microphones is usually limited to 10mA or
> so. Telephones still meet very old-fashioned standards, and sometimes
> expect to see big relays across the line. I would think that 100mA
> would be typical.
>
> On 19 November 2014 21:08, Joe Wilson via Stagecraft
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Dorian Kelly via Stagecraft
>> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>> I thought the teleQ provided the line power as well as the ring power, no?
>>
>> No, TeleQ only supplies ringing voltage. It turns off when you
>> release the button.
>>
>> I wonder if you could use a sound console's phantom power supply to
>> supply the talk voltage... hmmmm.
>>
>> ~joe
>>
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> --
> Frank Wood
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:11:07 +0000
> From: Nigel Worsley <niglew at googlemail.com>
> To: "e-mail frank.wood95" <frank.wood95 at ntlworld.com>, Stagecraft
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> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
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> Frank Wood wrote:
>> Telephones still meet very old-fashioned standards, and sometimes
>> expect to see big relays across the line. I would think that 100mA
>> would be typical.
>
> Electronic exchanges typically feed the line with a constant current
> of 25mA, and because it is considered a reasonable scenario that two
> handsets will be lifted at the same time ( eg. for transferring a call
> by shouting at someone else in the house to pick up the other phone )
> it is a requirement for phones to function correctly on 12.5mA in the
> UK, and similar specifications exist in most other countries.
>
> Much older telephones have similar characteristics, as the 50V feed
> voltage and much of the sometimes very long wiring hasn't changed over
> the years.
>
> Nigel Worsley
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:51:56 -0800
> From: Jerry Durand <jdurand at interstellar.com>
> To: Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: [SML] iOS 8 wallpaper
> Message-ID: <546D574C.50205 at interstellar.com>
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> Is there a way to turn off the movement of the wallpaper when the iPad
> is tilted? I have to use one for a client's project and find it
> annoying. Maybe just turn off the wallpaper altogether?
>
> --
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
> Skype: jerrydurand
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:52:55 -0800
> From: "Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center"
> <admin at mtangelperformingarts.com>
> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
> Message-ID: <546D5787.3080401 at mtangelperformingarts.com>
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> On 11/19/2014 5:11 PM, Nigel Worsley via Stagecraft wrote:
>> Frank Wood wrote:
>>> Telephones still meet very old-fashioned standards, and sometimes
>>> expect to see big relays across the line. I would think that 100mA
>>> would be typical.
>>
>> Electronic exchanges typically feed the line with a constant current
>> of 25mA, and because it is considered a reasonable scenario that two
>> handsets will be lifted at the same time ( eg. for transferring a call
>> by shouting at someone else in the house to pick up the other phone )
>> it is a requirement for phones to function correctly on 12.5mA in the
>> UK, and similar specifications exist in most other countries.
>>
>> Much older telephones have similar characteristics, as the 50V feed
>> voltage and much of the sometimes very long wiring hasn't changed over
>> the years.
>>
>> Nigel Worsley
>
> I think what y'all need for getting a live phone line from point A to
> point B is what's called a 'telephone line simulator'. We used one long
> ago in developing a modem product and the reasonably good ones simulate
> a telephone central office and generate all the voltages and tones
> really well.
>
> As I recall, we had a TLS-2 from Teltone, but they are now ridiculously
> expensive.
>
> I have not tried these but have purchased other stuff from this seller
> and had no problems. see <http://www.sandman.com/simulator.html>
>
> Carla
>
> Feds have looked into our phone records, computers and e-mails. When did
> the government suddenly become our psycho ex-lover?
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:02:35 -0800
> From: Jerry Durand <jdurand at interstellar.com>
> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: [SML] iOS 8 wallpaper
> Message-ID: <546D59CB.6030701 at interstellar.com>
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>
> Just found out how...also extends battery life turning it off. Under
> Accessibility turn on REDUCE MOTION. No screen jitter and longer run
> time. Double bonus.
>
> On 11/19/2014 06:51 PM, Jerry Durand via Stagecraft wrote:
>> Is there a way to turn off the movement of the wallpaper when the iPad
>> is tilted? I have to use one for a client's project and find it
>> annoying. Maybe just turn off the wallpaper altogether?
>
> --
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com
> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
> Skype: jerrydurand
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:49:16 +0000
> From: "Scott R. Henkels" <henkelssr at hotmail.com>
> To: "stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: [SML] University of Wismar
> Message-ID: <BLU171-W108571A02440459C145A2F8BC760 at phx.gbl>
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> Nate
> Have you talked with Victor En Yu Tan at UMKC?
>
> Scott Henkels
> UMKC TD alumn
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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jacqueline Haney <jacki14fr at yahoo.com>
> To: "Scott C. Parker" <scparker at gmail.com>, Stagecraft Mailing List
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net>, Stagecraft Mailing List
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> Subject: Re: [SML] OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting
> and stagecraft"
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> My day job is with an energy consultant.? He recently was solicited (vigorously) by phone to pay a significant amount of money to be listed in a directory of "expert witnesses" available to insurance companies.??? Especially if it was through Linked In, I suspect this is the same sort of useless "service".
> Jacqueline Haney
>
>
> From: Scott C. Parker via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:04 PM
> Subject: [SML] OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting and stagecraft"
>
> I got this email via LinkedIn asking for info about lighting and stagecraft. Supposedly anyway. They say they are an information company, who specialize in personal and business investigations.?
> "The reason I am contacting you today is because you are a professional in a field in which I am researching at this time. In order to successfully help our clients, I need to be familiar with all aspects of each particular case. This is why I am reaching out to you."
> Has anyone gotten these types of things before? Seems like a private investigation firm building a case about someone/something.
> --?
> Scott C. Parker
> Lighting Designer USA829 ? http://scpld.com/ Studio 212-533-3430 ?Cell 718-757-6661
> http://twitter.com/stageseminars ? https://www.linkedin.com/in/lightingdesigner
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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jacqueline Haney <jacki14fr at yahoo.com>
> To: "Scott C. Parker" <scparker at gmail.com>, Stagecraft Mailing List
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net>, Stagecraft Mailing List
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: [SML] OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting
> and stagecraft"
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> <7534607.1034772.1416505641080.JavaMail.yahoo at jws10747.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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> My day job is with an energy consultant.? He recently was solicited (vigorously) by phone to pay a significant amount of money to be listed in a directory of "expert witnesses" available to insurance companies.??? Especially if it was through Linked In, I suspect this is the same sort of useless "service".
> Jacqueline Haney
>
>
> From: Scott C. Parker via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:04 PM
> Subject: [SML] OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting and stagecraft"
>
> I got this email via LinkedIn asking for info about lighting and stagecraft. Supposedly anyway. They say they are an information company, who specialize in personal and business investigations.?
> "The reason I am contacting you today is because you are a professional in a field in which I am researching at this time. In order to successfully help our clients, I need to be familiar with all aspects of each particular case. This is why I am reaching out to you."
> Has anyone gotten these types of things before? Seems like a private investigation firm building a case about someone/something.
> --?
> Scott C. Parker
> Lighting Designer USA829 ? http://scpld.com/ Studio 212-533-3430 ?Cell 718-757-6661
> http://twitter.com/stageseminars ? https://www.linkedin.com/in/lightingdesigner
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:08:26 -0500
> From: "Joe Dunfee" <joe at dunfee.com>
> To: <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
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> I think the REALLY old fashioned phones, where you turn a crank to ring the
> operator, were compatible with the later ringing phones, in terms of
> voltage. So, if you had one of those, you make another phone ring by just
> wiring them together.
>
> However, I only recall seeing the regular crank phones with separate mic's
> and speakers. But, I vaguely recall seeing WW2 era field phones in a movie
> that had a single hand-set, and also used a crank to ring the other phone.
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
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