[SML] Portable Lift
Matt
mjedesigner at gmail.com
Sat Mar 7 21:35:22 UTC 2015
Could you build a subfloor on top of the cement floor? That way you could anchor into the sub floor rather than the buildings cement floor.
Thank you,
Matt Evans
513-464-3854
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> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 15:03:03 -0500
> From: Tom Marhenke <tmarhenk at hamilton.edu>
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> Curious how others have solved this problem, new building with lots
> of beautiful features including a 20? x 20? trap room. The height from
> trap floor to stage deck is about 14?-0?. Trying to figure out an OSHA
> approved lift that is somewhat portable, portable in that it can be
> moved around the trap room and bolted to the floor. Physical Plant wants
> minimal holes in floor and would like a plot so holes can be reused.
> There is some money in the budget. Thoughts?
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Marhenke
> Technical Director, Theatre
> Hamilton College
> 315-859-4869
> Tmarhenk at hamilton.edu
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> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 17:47:23 -0500
> From: Mike Katz <narishkup at gmail.com>
> To: Tom Marhenke <tmarhenk at hamilton.edu>, Stagecraft Mailing List
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> If you are only going 14' maybe look at the possibility of outriggers like
> on a genie so you do not need to bolt it down at all. Also since the room
> is 20x20 you could put in pipe US -DS and SL-SR and clamp the lift into
> place on the pipes. OR Put unistrut in the floor and clamp to it.
> I like the flexibility of these approaches if they really do not want holes
> in the floor.
> Mike
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> Michael Katz
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> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Tom Marhenke via Stagecraft <
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>> Curious how others have solved this problem, new building with lots of
>> beautiful features including a 20? x 20? trap room. The height from trap
>> floor to stage deck is about 14?-0?. Trying to figure out an OSHA approved
>> lift that is somewhat portable, portable in that it can be moved around the
>> trap room and bolted to the floor. Physical Plant wants minimal holes in
>> floor and would like a plot so holes can be reused. There is some money in
>> the budget. Thoughts?
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom Marhenke
>> Technical Director, Theatre
>> Hamilton College
>> 315-859-4869
>> Tmarhenk at hamilton.edu
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> You say new but I assume too late to embed unistrut in floor? I
> designed that into floor of a new trap room - pair 4' on center up and
> down stage - and am confident that it will accommodate anything they
> can think of, even if it takes an extra member spanning two runs.
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> Are you asking about a personnel lift so you can get to traps or a
> lift as in scenery rising through floor? I'm confused by Genie
> reference.
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> Bill Conner Fellow of the ASTC
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> From: Mike Katz <narishkup at gmail.com>
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> Hey Bill, I was no the OP. I was suggesting that a scenic lift did not need
> to be bolted down of it'd base was big enough.
> Looking forward to seeing you at USITT.
> Mike
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>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015, 6:55 PM Bill Conner <billconnerastc at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Are you asking about a personnel lift so you can get to traps or a
>> lift as in scenery rising through floor? I'm confused by Genie
>> reference.
>>
>> --
>> Bill Conner Fellow of the ASTC
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> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 22:34:15 -0500
> From: Dale Farmer <dale at cybercom.net>
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>> On 3/6/2015 3:03 PM, Tom Marhenke via Stagecraft wrote:
>> Curious how others have solved this problem, new building with lots of
>> beautiful features including a 20? x 20? trap room. The height from
>> trap floor to stage deck is about 14?-0?. Trying to figure out an OSHA
>> approved lift that is somewhat portable, portable in that it can be
>> moved around the trap room and bolted to the floor. Physical Plant
>> wants minimal holes in floor and would like a plot so holes can be
>> reused. There is some money in the budget. Thoughts?
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom Marhenke
>> Technical Director, Theatre
>> Hamilton College
>> 315-859-4869
>> Tmarhenk at hamilton.edu
>>
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> I would think that the controlling feature is the trap opening(s)
> themselves. Or is the entire stage deck above the trap room something
> that you will cut holes in as needed and replace the deck when you don't
> need the holes anymore?
>
> Does it have to be bolted to the floor or can it be held down by a
> sufficient application of gravity glue to keep it from moving around by
> anything short of a major earthquake? Or is there some kind of
> critical alignment issue to line it up with the trap openings? Does
> the lift need to be people rated, or just for equipment and scenery?
> (Substantial increase in costs for people rated lifts. ) How big a
> lift in square footage of lift surface, weight capacity, speed and
> controllability for intermediate stops? Powered by what? (electricity,
> pneumatic, hydraulic, or muscles) And, of course, what's your budget?
>
> Answering these questions, along with the needs assessment of your
> various features (Is it mandatory, highly desirable, desirable, nice to
> have, don't care, undesirable, or absolutely not?) should clarify your
> thinking.
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> --Dale
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> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:39:32 -0700
> From: "Risk Intl. - Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" <rdavidson at riskit.com>
> To: "'Mike Katz'" <narishkup at gmail.com>, "'Stagecraft Mailing List'"
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> Sorry Mike, I will have to miss my 51st year at USITT?.a fall with some injuries?.ice and such?.say hello to those who know Dr. doom. Thanks.
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> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Mike Katz via Stagecraft
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> Hey Bill, I was no the OP. I was suggesting that a scenic lift did not need to be bolted down of it'd base was big enough.
> Looking forward to seeing you at USITT.
> Mike
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> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015, 6:55 PM Bill Conner <billconnerastc at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Are you asking about a personnel lift so you can get to traps or a
> lift as in scenery rising through floor? I'm confused by Genie
> reference.
>
> --
> Bill Conner Fellow of the ASTC
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