[SML] PayPal

[Dorian Kelly]

I don't know if theres an equivalent where you are but the unfair provisions in such a contact would make it unenforceable here in the EU. If that is you were prepared to spend a shipload of money and half your remaining life defending it. 


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On 6 May 2015, at 07:09, Bill Nelson via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

>> Seems like the usual ham-fisted boilerplate of the social media sites,
>> where everything you upload becomes their property.
> 
> Not really their property - just an eternal license to use your submitted
> property in any way they feel fit.
> 
>> PayPal may not realize they are not a social media site, they are a
>> payment portal for e-commerce. As far as I know they do not get any
>> 'content' for republication or other use.
> 
> Does the site have user forums? If so, I would expect that is the matter to
> which they are referring.
> 
>> Maybe the intention is solely the second part of the message, that they
>> (as a payment portal) are not liable to authors in the event a PayPal
>> merchant sells a copyrighted item they do not have reproduction rights
>> for. You would think an organization withe PayPal's resources could
>> afford an attorney who can write comprehensible sentences - but maybe not.
> 
> What are "moral rights"?
> 
>> IMO this boilerplate is pretty meaningless and and there will probably
>> be a 'retraction', 'clarification' or 'restatement' in the near future.
>> If not, what other payment system is available for online e-commerce for
>> those of us not interested in further dealings with PayPal?
> 
> In the past, they have often left idiotic statements in place for years, even
> when pointed out to Paypal representatives.
> 
> Apparently ebay is divesting themselves of Paypal. But from what I understand,
> Paypal will still be their preferred payment method.
> 
> Bill
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
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