[SML] Colorsource Spot vs incandescent S4

[Richard Niederberg]

Dear Jon,
In regards to shootouts: no photo-chemical (film dye) or electronic (video,
digital origination) device can exactly replicate the color of sunlight
reflecting off a fresh Rose. You can do shoot-out with your best camera at
your local Botanical Garden, if you need convincing.
/s/ Ricrard
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On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Alf Sauve' via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> In re-outfitting a "gym" venue, I decided to ditch all the incandescent;
> 27 PAR64s and one Spot.  Half needed base/cord replacement and the EDI rack
> is gradually going south anyway.  I got 14 ColorSource PARs and 8 Spots.
>
>
> Plenty of light to cover the 32'w x 16'd stage.  Plenty of light.   I
> wouldn't worry about the amount of light and wouldn't hesitate to replace
> them 1-for-1 for the Colortrans and S4s I have in the other venues.
>
>
> The problem is, and it's the first time I've done all LED lights, getting
> the colors right on stage.   I've done LEDs on scenery, cycs and back
> drops, but have always had incandescent for the acting space.  With all
> LEDs you have to color them carefully.  It's so easy to get too much, way
> too much color.  Probably because it's so easy.    You also, if you're
> using 5600k fixtures, have to be careful about it being too white.  Got to
> have some tint in it.  But these are good problems to have.
>
>
> I also went with the wireless CS Relay's.   Great invention.   They've
> worked well.  The beauty of them is running  power through them.  When they
> loose wireless signal, after a delay, they shut power to the fixtures off.
> It made installation a breeze.   And I don't have to worry about energy
> savings.
>
>
>
>
> On 1/8/2018 3:49 PM, Matthew Breton via Stagecraft wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, there are a lot of numbers to compare -- 575 or 750W
> conventional, versus exactly which version of a Lustr or ColorSource?
>
>
> From personal experience, I can tell you that the Series 2 Lustrs do quite
> well when comparing full intensity in open white to a 575w conventional.
> Their numerous side benefits (color mixing, built-in dimmer, never needing
> gel or color media again) really do outweigh their drawbacks.  There are a
> few colors that no LED fixture I've seen yet seems to be able to hit, but
> overall I think the benefit is very strongly toward the LEDs.
>
>
> You could always go to a rental shop, or work renting on or two into a
> budget to arrange for a shoot-out.
>
>
>
> Matthew Breton
> Design for Theater and Dance
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> *From:* Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net>
> <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Jon Ares via Stagecraft
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 8, 2018 3:41:14 PM
> *To:* Stagecraft Mailing List
> *Cc:* Jon Ares
> *Subject:* [SML] Colorsource Spot vs incandescent S4
>
> So I was looking at a spreadsheet someone built, comparing the various
> flavors of Source Fours (Lustres, Colorsource, incandescent), plus
> other LED goodies from ETC, and just looking at some sample numbers
> (all emitters on, 3200K, 5600K whites) it looks like both the latest
> Lustres and the Colorsources seem to be around 1/2 the footcandles of
> the old-skool incandescent Source Fours?  Really?
>
> Anyone have any experiences from a side-by-side shoot-out?
>
> --
> Jon Ares
> www.arescreative.com
>
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/s/ Richard
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