[SML] Balcony Rails

Sat Jul 20 14:19:48 UTC 2019

At the foot of aisles where the lowest level is more than 30" above
the floor below - so besides balconies applies also to some parterres
or grandstands and also an orchestarlevelaisle endingata pitrail and
orchestra pit.  There maybe other applications.  But the code says the
rail or fascia at the foot of an aisle shall "be a minimum of 36
inches (914 mm) high and shall provide a minimum 42 inches (1067 mm)
measured diagonally between the top of the rail and the nosing of the
nearest tread."  So foot of a balcony aisle with just one step per row
is likely to require a 36" high rail or fascia there; one with three
steps per row and the nosing of the first step is probably going to
push it up to the 44-48" range.  Its that diagonal measurement in
section that rules.

Considering these dimensions are based on post WW II research, its
probably past time for a change, as people - in US at least - are
bigger.  I believe the 95th percentile male in the US - I've been told
the basis for the 42" high guard criteria was - is several inches
taller today than 50+ years ago.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 12:02 AM Michael Powers via Stagecraft
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> Bill,
> Is the requirement (IIRC- (( If this ancient, decrepit brain can remember anything ))  for a 42” rail at the end of aisle steps still the rule?
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> Michael Powers
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> From: "Fritz, Barry" <fritzbl at etown.edu>
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> One of our venues is considering adding a railing to the balcony aisle steps.  Which codes should we be looking at (directing our contractor to) currently?
>
> Thanks,
> Barry
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> NFPA is currently looking at balcony rails, specifically sight line constrained rails. The incidents in arenas and stadiums over the past several decades initiated the study, but right now it's the same requlation.
>
> The team researching came up with two incidents in performing arts facilities over 20 years. One was ruled suicide and should not be considered. The other was in the Chicago Theatre, and in one Tribune article was labeled balcony. I'm pretty sure I found before this was in the lobby, but not sure where. If you know of the incident in have information that can clarify, please share.
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> If you know of other fall incidents over sight line constrained rails, please share.
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> Thank you.
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> From: "White, Brian K." <bwhite at ric.edu>
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> Green Home Solutions is a National Franchise that uses a probiotic (of some sort) to actually get in and kill off all the mold permanently.  Then you can handle the mechanical removal of the inert debris leftover (or pay them to do it) and just repaint it.
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> I have had them work on several projects for me over the last few years and have always been impressed.
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> My Local Guy is Steven Dubois, 508.779.6840  if your in the MA/ RI area give him a call directly, or just visit their website at
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> In the last few months 2 or 3 different vendors in the Baltimore/DC metro area had open house days with a variety of lighting equipment, other equipment, some manufacturers reps and free food.  Unfortunately I was not able to attend.  Check with suppliers in your area to see if any are planning one.
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> At the beginning of the fall semester 1 of the local companies is going to come to campus with a variety of things to show to my students.  You may have someone willing to do that also.
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 07:13:32 -0400
> From: Bill Conner <billconnerastc at gmail.com>
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> NFPA is currently looking at balcony rails, specifically sight line constrained rails. The incidents in arenas and stadiums over the past several decades initiated the study, but right now it's the same requlation.
>
> The team researching came up with two incidents in performing arts facilities over 20 years. One was ruled suicide and should not be considered. The other was in the Chicago Theatre, and in one Tribune article was labeled balcony. I'm pretty sure I found before this was in the lobby, but not sure where. If you know of the incident in have information that can clarify, please share.
>
> If you know of other fall incidents over sight line constrained rails, please share.
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:29:42 -0400
> From: Rick Clever <rickclever at gmail.com>
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> Hello all,
>
> We have a shipping container that was being used as a storage pod.
> Unfortunately it was not ventilated properly and most of the wooden items inside have grown white mold. Once i figure out how to get the container ventilated, is there a way to salvage my flats and other items without throwing them all away?
>
> Thanks,
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> --
> Rick Clever
> Technical Director
> Owens Community College
> 567-661-7930
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> https://moldpedia.com/mold-removalThe trick with bleach or vinegar is not to make it too strong, that will make the mold hibernate instead of killing it.? Sunshine is also very effective.StuartSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device-------- Original message --------From: Rick Clever via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Date: 7/18/2019  1:29 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Cc: Rick Clever <rickclever at gmail.com> Subject: [SML] White Mold Hello all,We have a shipping container that was being used as a storage pod.Unfortunately it was not ventilated properly and most of the woodenitems inside have grown white mold. Once i figure out how to get thecontainer ventilated, is there a way to salvage my flats and otheritems without throwing them all away?Thanks,-- Rick CleverTechnical DirectorOwens Community College567-661-7930____________________________________________________________For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>!
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> A spray and wipedown with Concrobium or equivalent might be a start,
> but be aware that it tends to leave various salts behind [sort of like
> fireproofing treatment] which may affect color/texture.  The claim is
> that it destroys the spores, though.
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> I have a softLED / fibre optic wingleg system that we would like to move on
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> From: Bill Conner <billconnerastc at gmail.com>
> To: Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
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> A hand rail for using the aisle stair or a guess at foot of aisle?
>
> Both the Life Safety Code and the International Building Code require
> handrails for all aisle stairs.the Life Safety Code specifically requires
> they be retrofitted in existing aisles.  It has allowances or options for
> aisles that were permitted to be narrower than today.
>
> Feel free to ask for details here or give me a call - 708-983-5792. What I
> really need are at least good photos if not drawings, and I think I can
> outline the issues and options efficiently. Retrofit is always unique.
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 3:02 PM Fritz, Barry via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> One of our venues is considering adding a railing to the balcony aisle
>
> steps.  Which codes should we be looking at (directing our contractor to)
>
> currently?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Barry
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Bill Conner via Stagecraft <
>
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>
> CAUTION: This message originates from outside the "etown.edu" email
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> system. Please view with care.
>
> NFPA is currently looking at balcony rails, specifically sight line
>
> constrained rails. The incidents in arenas and stadiums over the past
>
> several decades initiated the study, but right now it's the same requlation.
>
>
> The team researching came up with two incidents in performing arts
>
> facilities over 20 years. One was ruled suicide and should not be
>
> considered. The other was in the Chicago Theatre, and in one Tribune
>
> article was labeled balcony. I'm pretty sure I found before this was in the
>
> lobby, but not sure where. If you know of the incident in have information
>
> that can clarify, please share.
>
>
> If you know of other fall incidents over sight line constrained rails,
>
> please share.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
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> From: Wayne Rasmussen <rasmuw at blair.edu>
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> Having a bought a foreclosure recently that had some mold issues in the
> crawlspace, I've found that Borax, one cup per gallon of water, has been
> very effective.  I spray it on the joists with a garden sprayer, work it
> in briefly with a brush, and then wipe off the excess moisture with a
> towel.  Combined with keeping the humidity in the crawlspace down, the
> mold had not reappeared.  Borax is basic while mold is acidic, so the
> residual chemicals help fight the return.  If your mold is on the backside
> of the flats, I'd definitely recommend the treatment.  If the mold was on
> the surface of the flats, I cannot predict how paint will react with it.
>
> Wayne Rasmussen
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