From dale at cybercom.net  Wed Apr  1 00:38:58 2020
From: dale at cybercom.net (Dale Farmer)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:38:58 -0400
Subject: [SML] [EXTERNAL] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <ABF5E95E-22B4-4983-9A78-522802B3B274@bgsu.edu>
References: <ABF5E95E-22B4-4983-9A78-522802B3B274@bgsu.edu>
Message-ID: <a461fdb8-f929-1c2e-4222-2d76b298c6a1@cybercom.net>

Hi everyone.
With all the shows cancelling, 4wall laid me off along with loads of 
other employees a couple weeks ago.  Quite a shock after 14 years.  Now 
in the process of filing for unemployment and sitting at home.   Still 
taking care of elderly mom at home, so being pretty careful about 
bringing any infections home.     Massachusetts just extended the 
closures to May 4th, so another month of staying home.

got lots of projects at home I should be working on...

Dale


On 3/31/2020 2:27 PM, Kelly Ann Mangan via Stagecraft wrote:
> Greetings from Ohio.? We?re all pretty much intact.? Unhappy about the 
> cancelled shows and trying to figure out how to get students some sort 
> of comparable production activity.? At this point, I?m having them set 
> up stuff on their kitchen table, spike it all with tiny little spike 
> marks, make a scene shift chart, and then video their set changes for 
> me.?? I hate that some of these students would have been having their 
> capstone production experience, but at least I can keep pushing them to 
> add the skills they?ll need once they get out into the job market ? once 
> there is one again.
> 
> In the land of the university ? I?m swamped with this new online 
> delivery.? But too many of my friends in the professional world are 
> feeling the pinch and finding themselves unemployed after as many as 40 
> years with the same company.
> 
> Here?s to keeping sane, helping each other, and a speedy return to the 
> things that feed our souls.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> Kelly Wiegant?Mangan | ?MFA
> 
> Design|Tech Faculty
> 
> Bowling Green State University |Department of Theatre and Film
> 
> 212 Wolfe Center | Bowling Green | OH |43403
> 
> 419-372-7171 | Mangank at bgsu.edu
> 
> http://www.bgsu.edu/arts-and-sciences/theatre-and-film.html
> 
> Proud member of
> 
> S*P*A*M -? Society of Properties Artisan Managers
> 
> The Stage Managers?Association
> 
> The Guild of Scenic Artists
> 
> And
> 
> USITT???The United States Institute for Theatre Technology
> 
> *From: *Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of 
> Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> *Reply-To: *Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 12:05 PM
> *To: *Steven Hood via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> *Cc: *Jeffrey Kanyuck <JKanyuck at Harford.edu>
> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] [SML] Is everyone still ok?
> 
> This list has been rather quiet. I thought I would check in and see how 
> folks are doing.
> 
> Remember if you are in need of help there are various ways to get it. 
> Whether you need help medically, emotionally, or physically (or foods) 
> there are groups for this. If you need help finding one for you or 
> someone you know ask. We should be able to come up with it.
> 
> Take care all, keep the jokes going, laughter can help.
> 
> We need to stick together.
> 
> Jeff Kanyuck
> 
> 
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From dave.vick at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 00:51:18 2020
From: dave.vick at gmail.com (Dave Vick)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:51:18 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <1738233779.437519.1585683138903@mail.yahoo.com>
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:32 PM Kristi R-C via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

>  Started working from home yesterday, which I like as the catering is good, commute
> time non-existent and environment cozy.

...And pants optional.

-- 
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
Yeah; *that* guy...



From jonares at arescreative.com  Wed Apr  1 00:56:46 2020
From: jonares at arescreative.com (Jon Ares)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 17:56:46 -0700
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAEy8B2n8rfYoWuqD984vH3rxh8f9T6y6+u8L71Of7FN6d1j3cg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1738233779.437519.1585683138903.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:52 PM Dave Vick via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> >  Started working from home yesterday, which I like as the catering is good, commute
> > time non-existent and environment cozy.
>
> ...And pants optional.
>
> --
> Dave Vick

Yeah. Yay for Zoom.  I feel like a news anchor: business on top, party
down below.

 - Jon




-- 
Jon Ares
www.arescreative.com



From dave.vick at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 01:09:13 2020
From: dave.vick at gmail.com (Dave Vick)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:09:13 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAN1Z+zamSF8RfxmoCVsyy8L=1m-yr-Fi=a7WAWRfogh5TA6h3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1738233779.437519.1585683138903.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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	<CAEy8B2n8rfYoWuqD984vH3rxh8f9T6y6+u8L71Of7FN6d1j3cg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:57 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> > >  Started working from home yesterday, which I like as the catering is good, commute
> > > time non-existent and environment cozy.
> >
> > ...And pants optional.
>
> Yeah. Yay for Zoom.  I feel like a news anchor: business on top, party
> down below.


Just don't get on the wrong side of the Law of Sufficient Pants?

-- 
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
Yeah; *that* guy...



From taco at peak.org  Wed Apr  1 01:19:17 2020
From: taco at peak.org (taco at peak.org)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:19:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SML] [ADV] Re:  Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAEy8B2n2GjBkLqjAS40VDfnu8=vva2=-Tjy-7S5mBOwJdBgg9A@mail.gmail.com>
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> > > Started working from home yesterday, which I like as the catering is good, commute 
> > > time non-existent and environment cozy. 
> > 
> > ...And pants optional. 
> 
> Yeah. Yay for Zoom. I feel like a news anchor: business on top, party 
> down below. 


>Just don't get on the wrong side of the Law of Sufficient Pants? 

Is that related to Cole's Law? 
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From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Wed Apr  1 01:07:14 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:07:14 -0700
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAN1Z+zamSF8RfxmoCVsyy8L=1m-yr-Fi=a7WAWRfogh5TA6h3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1738233779.437519.1585683138903.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <96e6dc23-1950-4098-a837-b793c4971c03@durandinterstellar.com>

We visited a local big TV station for some back stage stuff.? While there our host took us through the newsroom where the popular anchor was there in a business suit top and shorts on the bottom...with tennis shoes.? Apparently a fairly popular outfit.

?---
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408 356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.DurandInterstellar.ru?

On Mar 31, 2020, 17:57, at 17:57, Jon Ares via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 5:52 PM Dave Vick via Stagecraft
><stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>
>> >  Started working from home yesterday, which I like as the catering
>is good, commute
>> > time non-existent and environment cozy.
>>
>> ...And pants optional.
>>
>> --
>> Dave Vick
>
>Yeah. Yay for Zoom.  I feel like a news anchor: business on top, party
>down below.
>
> - Jon
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Jon Ares
>www.arescreative.com
>
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From sdwheaton at fuse.net  Wed Apr  1 02:30:07 2020
From: sdwheaton at fuse.net (Stuart Wheaton)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:30:07 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR03MB5056589B902059D9006FCFF0CEC80@MN2PR03MB5056.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <170d5903638.27f3.6f7d1c9102b81228b121511c9b3868d0.ref@yahoo.com>
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Got done with my absolutely crazy inspection schedule just in time.? Got 
through Sydney, Dubai, and Buenos Aires just weeks before they closed 
borders.? And I managed not to collect any nefarious virii.

About 2 weeks after I got home, the governor shut it all down.

Since our primary clients are all Cruise lines and local restaurants, we 
were already running out of things to do.

I go in to the shop every few days to check the buckets where the roof 
leaks and to decide if I need to mow the grass.
Finishing up a big pile of projects that have been awaiting my 
attention, including completing a set of Barrister's book cases for my 
former assistant.

I've actually excavated most of the way to the surface of my desk and my 
workbench, the garage still resists all attempts at organization, but I 
suspect DeWine will give me another 3-4 weeks to get that project started.

All in all I'm enjoying the break from the crazy schedule from Nov-Feb.? 
but in a couple more weeks my attitude might change.

Stuart





From misswisc at aol.com  Wed Apr  1 06:45:58 2020
From: misswisc at aol.com (Kristi R-C)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 06:45:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAEy8B2n8rfYoWuqD984vH3rxh8f9T6y6+u8L71Of7FN6d1j3cg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1738233779.437519.1585683138903.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1872622366.162763.1585723558225@mail.yahoo.com>

Too cold to go pants-less, but sweats and fleece have been the order of the day.?
Remind me to call before I come to visit you. ;)?


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Vick via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Dave Vick <dave.vick at gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Mar 31, 2020 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:32 PM Kristi R-C via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

>? Started working from home yesterday, which I like as the catering is good, commute
> time non-existent and environment cozy.

...And pants optional.

-- 
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
Yeah; *that* guy...

____________________________________________________________
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From twiningeloise at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 11:49:58 2020
From: twiningeloise at gmail.com (Eloise Twining)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 04:49:58 -0700
Subject: [SML] Checking In
Message-ID: <CANwoyVY2fQgDkrPpJqj8rNm50+YxL73B_Pj914H3o-Yv21+FBA@mail.gmail.com>

My last job was Mar 4th, down in some San Francisco hotel. I think Moscone
Center is now hosting emergency services (so they can distance properly)
and also being a homeless shelter.
I'm up on my ranch in Ukiah cutting down trees as fast as I can to make the
house more fire safe for the summer. Need a 200ft clear area around the
house where trees are widely spaced. Anyone need firewood?
It is great to be outdoors in spring!  Getting some time in with the
horses, which is wonderful and very different from being in some hotel
ballroom all spring.
Considering whether to take retirement two years early or not. For  now
unemployment is helping but it sure doesn't replace a good spring season!

Stay safe everyone.

Eloise Twining
IATSE Local 16
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From judithku at post.bgu.ac.il  Wed Apr  1 12:17:21 2020
From: judithku at post.bgu.ac.il (Judy Kupferman)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 15:17:21 +0300
Subject: [SML] Noah Price
Message-ID: <CADuh2xK1X7=9HZbvzDzq2Txnk8+Tf7_6NC=6wBSrAEtwWQe8HA@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone on the list know how I could get in touch with Noah Price?

I have a website with Jeff Salzberg (www.stagelightingprimer.com) and Jeff
is in rehab, and it's time to pay the host of the site. I have no idea who
this is or how to find them, I think at least in the past Noah did that.
I'd appreciate any info or suggestions?

Stay safe everyone! Here in Israel almost everyone in stagecaft is really
worried, everything is closed, no proper union, almost everybody
free-lance, and though free-lancers are supposed to be compensated it's not
clear how that will work for us. Especially since all the holiday shows for
Purim and Passover were cancelled and that is like the major earning period
of the whole year.  But the main thing is to stay alive.

Judy
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From herrick at hglightingdesign.com  Wed Apr  1 12:21:35 2020
From: herrick at hglightingdesign.com (herrick goldman)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 08:21:35 -0400
Subject: [SML] Noah Price
In-Reply-To: <CADuh2xK1X7=9HZbvzDzq2Txnk8+Tf7_6NC=6wBSrAEtwWQe8HA@mail.gmail.com>
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Noah at prxy.com Noah at prxy.net

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 08:17 Judy Kupferman via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Does anyone on the list know how I could get in touch with Noah Price?
>
> I have a website with Jeff Salzberg (www.stagelightingprimer.com) and
> Jeff is in rehab, and it's time to pay the host of the site. I have no idea
> who this is or how to find them, I think at least in the past Noah did that.
> I'd appreciate any info or suggestions?
>
> Stay safe everyone! Here in Israel almost everyone in stagecaft is really
> worried, everything is closed, no proper union, almost everybody
> free-lance, and though free-lancers are supposed to be compensated it's not
> clear how that will work for us. Especially since all the holiday shows for
> Purim and Passover were cancelled and that is like the major earning period
> of the whole year.  But the main thing is to stay alive.
>
> Judy
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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From dave.vick at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 13:20:52 2020
From: dave.vick at gmail.com (Dave Vick)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:20:52 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:45 AM Kristi R-C <misswisc at aol.com> wrote

Too cold to go pants-less, but sweats and fleece have been the order of the
> day.
>

Y?might consider getting your furnace checked, if it?s that cold; I assume
you Zoom indoors...



> Remind me to call before I come to visit you. ;)
>

Prolly a good idea...

>
-- 
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
Sent from my #%!^?? iPhone
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From litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 13:31:52 2020
From: litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com (Stephen Litterst)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:31:52 -0400
Subject: [SML] [ADV] Re: Is everyone still ok?
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On 3/31/20 9:19 PM, Don Taco via Stagecraft wrote:
> 
>  > > > ?Started working from home yesterday, which I like as the 
> catering is good, commute
>  > > > time non-existent and environment cozy.
>  > >
>  > > ...And pants optional.
>  >
>  > Yeah. Yay for Zoom. ?I feel like a news anchor: business on top, party
>  > down below.
> 
> 
>  >Just don't get on the wrong side of the Law of Sufficient Pants?
> 
>  ???????? Is that related to Cole's Law?

No, that's sliced cabbage.

Steve L.

-- 
Stephen Litterst            Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst at udel.edu           Mitchell Hall
302/831-0601                University of Delaware




From ryan.mutton at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 13:38:45 2020
From: ryan.mutton at gmail.com (Ryan Mutton)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:38:45 -0400
Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update
Message-ID: <CABAiUvF04rfRPgwCD0HCV=bgX6g7hNiF1Sc+LG56s9zxS8+FSQ@mail.gmail.com>

Welcome to the list, Abbey. I showed up here some 12 years ago and haven't
left. It's a good bunch of folks.
FYI:  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8158?hl=en

To everyone else, Hi! It's been a minute so here's an update for anyone
playing along at home.

I have a very expensive piece of paper above my desk from Ithaca College
that says I know how to do theatre, my first Broadway check tucked into
that frame, and a Local 1 Apprentice card in my wallet.

-Moved to NYC in January of 2015
-Freelanced off-Broadway for a year and a half and then found a full time
gig drafting lighting systems for TV studios.
-Took the Local 1 test in '16, got placed as an apprentice at NBC/30 Rock
in the electric shop last January. Still there for the foreseeable future.

I miss theatre a lot but there's something nice about an 8a-4p 40 hour
week.

NBC cut down to the bone so I was sent home on the 19th. My girlfriend and
I are hunkered down in our apartment cooking and baking to pass the time.
My current big project is my new sourdough starter.

Last week I sous-vided a brisket and finished it in the oven. BBQ sacrilege
or way of the future?

Stay healthy, all.
rdm

-- 
Ryan Mutton
716.946.5801
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From herrick at hglightingdesign.com  Wed Apr  1 14:52:01 2020
From: herrick at hglightingdesign.com (herrick goldman)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 10:52:01 -0400
Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update
In-Reply-To: <CABAiUvF04rfRPgwCD0HCV=bgX6g7hNiF1Sc+LG56s9zxS8+FSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABAiUvF04rfRPgwCD0HCV=bgX6g7hNiF1Sc+LG56s9zxS8+FSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANFF+pM6uncGS8OagY3Oo8xZ3bXF+-gGnM83WxG3G1b_C4X21g@mail.gmail.com>

Ryan congrats,

How did I not know this?

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 09:38 Ryan Mutton via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Welcome to the list, Abbey. I showed up here some 12 years ago and haven't
> left. It's a good bunch of folks.
> FYI:  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8158?hl=en
>
> To everyone else, Hi! It's been a minute so here's an update for anyone
> playing along at home.
>
> I have a very expensive piece of paper above my desk from Ithaca College
> that says I know how to do theatre, my first Broadway check tucked into
> that frame, and a Local 1 Apprentice card in my wallet.
>
> -Moved to NYC in January of 2015
> -Freelanced off-Broadway for a year and a half and then found a full time
> gig drafting lighting systems for TV studios.
> -Took the Local 1 test in '16, got placed as an apprentice at NBC/30 Rock
> in the electric shop last January. Still there for the foreseeable future.
>
> I miss theatre a lot but there's something nice about an 8a-4p 40 hour
> week.
>
> NBC cut down to the bone so I was sent home on the 19th. My girlfriend and
> I are hunkered down in our apartment cooking and baking to pass the time.
> My current big project is my new sourdough starter.
>
> Last week I sous-vided a brisket and finished it in the oven. BBQ
> sacrilege or way of the future?
>
> Stay healthy, all.
> rdm
>
> --
> Ryan Mutton
> 716.946.5801
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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From billconnerastc at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 14:58:09 2020
From: billconnerastc at gmail.com (Bill Conner)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 10:58:09 -0400
Subject: [SML] Checking In
In-Reply-To: <CANwoyVY2fQgDkrPpJqj8rNm50+YxL73B_Pj914H3o-Yv21+FBA@mail.gmail.com>
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Being in midst of transition to retirement, I vote retire early,
especially if you have things you want to do.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:50 AM Eloise Twining via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> My last job was Mar 4th, down in some San Francisco hotel. I think Moscone Center is now hosting emergency services (so they can distance properly) and also being a homeless shelter.
> I'm up on my ranch in Ukiah cutting down trees as fast as I can to make the house more fire safe for the summer. Need a 200ft clear area around the house where trees are widely spaced. Anyone need firewood?
> It is great to be outdoors in spring!  Getting some time in with the horses, which is wonderful and very different from being in some hotel ballroom all spring.
> Considering whether to take retirement two years early or not. For  now unemployment is helping but it sure doesn't replace a good spring season!
>
> Stay safe everyone.
>
> Eloise Twining
> IATSE Local 16
>
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From dave.vick at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 15:25:48 2020
From: dave.vick at gmail.com (Dave Vick)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 11:25:48 -0400
Subject: [SML] [ADV] Re: Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <54a2c467-0d3f-1ddb-fc1b-539a689e6dce@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:32 AM Stephen Litterst via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

>>> Just don't get on the wrong side of the Law of Sufficient Pants?
>>
>> Is that related to Cole's Law?
>
> No, that's sliced cabbage.

Beat me to it...

-- 
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
Yeah; *that* guy...



From dave.vick at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 15:28:54 2020
From: dave.vick at gmail.com (Dave Vick)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 11:28:54 -0400
Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update
In-Reply-To: <CABAiUvF04rfRPgwCD0HCV=bgX6g7hNiF1Sc+LG56s9zxS8+FSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABAiUvF04rfRPgwCD0HCV=bgX6g7hNiF1Sc+LG56s9zxS8+FSQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ryan Mutton via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Last week I sous-vided a brisket and finished it in the oven. BBQ sacrilege or way of the future?


No smoker? It may be zesty 'n' delicious, but it ain't 'Q...

-- 
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
Yeah; *that* guy...



From Philip.Johnson at tamucc.edu  Wed Apr  1 15:31:11 2020
From: Philip.Johnson at tamucc.edu (Johnson, Philip)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 15:31:11 +0000
Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update
In-Reply-To: <CAEy8B2=O=2NfPZfsAiGOG+2s+7xmwhE3DUDmjQ4xOC32OgZY0g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABAiUvF04rfRPgwCD0HCV=bgX6g7hNiF1Sc+LG56s9zxS8+FSQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <D31BA17D-CACC-40E0-8BB1-6322B0CE632D@tamucc.edu>

Maybe BarbeQ..uarantine 


Professor Philip Johnson
Dept of Theatre and Dance
Texas A&M ? Corpus Christi 
 
 
 

?On 4/1/20, 10:30 AM, "Stagecraft on behalf of Dave Vick via Stagecraft" <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net on behalf of stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

    On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ryan Mutton via Stagecraft
    <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
    
    > Last week I sous-vided a brisket and finished it in the oven. BBQ sacrilege or way of the future?
    
    
    No smoker? It may be zesty 'n' delicious, but it ain't 'Q...
    
    -- 
    Dave Vick
    517-749-3859
    Yeah; *that* guy...
    
    ____________________________________________________________
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From jt at techie.com  Wed Apr  1 15:32:20 2020
From: jt at techie.com (John Taylor)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 10:32:20 -0500
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR03MB5056589B902059D9006FCFF0CEC80@MN2PR03MB5056.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <170d5903638.27f3.6f7d1c9102b81228b121511c9b3868d0.ref@yahoo.com>
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Another greeting from St Louis. For some reason SML started going to my
junk folder. Have to work on that. Tanks Jeff for starting this thread.

Doing good here from the semi-retired guy. I still work with several
groups in several venues and do consulting for the Zoo where I retired.

In one group we had to cancel the 3^rd show of the season on opening day
and since then have cancelled the last show also.

One of the youth groups I work with was to go on between the two shows
above since it was in the same venue has been cancelled. These two
groups (along with a couple of other groups) will be moving to a new PAC
the city is building that we hope to open in August.

With everything getting cancelled a couple of the other
shows/conferences/meetings I was supposed to work on have all been put
on hold for now.

So doing some work from home for the Zoo on some consulting for some
expansion work that is in the planning stage.

The big plus to having lots of time on my hands is my other love in
life, my Genealogy research. Found some new cousins including a director
and an opera singer so it has added to family in theatre and life.

We had a couple of mild weather days recently so got the grill out and
BBQ?ed some pork steaks. These are a mid-west/St Louis thing. This is
BBQ folks!

Stay safe folks,

JT



On 3/31/2020 10:55 AM, Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft wrote:
> This list has been rather quiet. I thought I would check in and see
> how folks are doing.
>
> Remember if you are in need of help there are various ways to get it.
> Whether you need help medically, emotionally, or physically (or foods)
> there are groups for this. If you need help finding one for you or
> someone you know ask. We should be able to come up with it.
>
> Take care all, keep the jokes going, laughter can help.
> We need to stick together.
>
> Jeff Kanyuck
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
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From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Wed Apr  1 15:41:01 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 08:41:01 -0700
Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update
In-Reply-To: <D31BA17D-CACC-40E0-8BB1-6322B0CE632D@tamucc.edu>
References: <CABAiUvF04rfRPgwCD0HCV=bgX6g7hNiF1Sc+LG56s9zxS8+FSQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 4/1/20 8:31 AM, Johnson, Philip via Stagecraft wrote:
> Maybe BarbeQ..uarantine 
>
>
> Professor Philip Johnson
> Dept of Theatre and Dance
> Texas A&M ? Corpus Christi 
>  
>

Here you go

-- 
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www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru

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From sdwheaton at fuse.net  Wed Apr  1 17:15:20 2020
From: sdwheaton at fuse.net (sdwheaton)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 13:15:20 -0400
Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update
Message-ID: <yo16ygfuc4dk8ffc94e6iwc5.1585761320923@email.android.com>

Dang, that kid from Clarence turned out pretty good!StuartSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device-------- Original message --------From: Ryan Mutton via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Date: 4/1/2020  9:38 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Cc: Ryan Mutton <ryan.mutton at gmail.com> Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update Welcome to the list, Abbey. I showed up here some 12 years ago and haven't left. It's a good bunch of folks.FYI:?

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8158?hl=enTo everyone else, Hi! It's been a minute so here's an update for anyone playing along at home.I have a very expensive piece of paper above my desk from Ithaca College that says I know how to do theatre, my first Broadway check tucked into that frame, and a Local 1 Apprentice card in my wallet.-Moved to NYC in January of 2015-Freelanced off-Broadway for a year and a half and then found a full time gig drafting lighting systems for TV studios.-Took the Local 1 test in '16, got placed as an apprentice at NBC/30 Rock in the electric shop last January. Still there for the foreseeable future.I miss theatre a lot but there's something nice about an 8a-4p 40 hour week.?NBC cut down to the bone so I was sent home on the 19th. My girlfriend and I are hunkered down in our apartment cooking and baking to pass the time. My current big project is my new sourdough starter.Last week I sous-vided a brisket and finished it in the oven. BBQ sacrilege or way of the future?Stay healthy, all.rdm-- Ryan Mutton716.946.5801
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From JKanyuck at Harford.edu  Wed Apr  1 17:16:32 2020
From: JKanyuck at Harford.edu (Jeffrey Kanyuck)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 17:16:32 +0000
Subject: [SML] [EXTERNAL]  Re:  Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <9804DCBF-7CA0-49BE-9D55-80490D8B55FF@gmail.com>
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It is. It comes and goes in spurts depending on how busy all of us are and able or not to get on here.
________________________________
From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of AlexDoesComics via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:04 PM
To: stagecraft at theatrical.net <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: AlexDoesComics <xmanaxeman33 at gmail.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

Please use caution: This email was generated outside of HCC.

I just joined this list! I?m a high school sophomore and I want to do tech when I grow up. Is this still active?

On Mar 31, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Jerry Durand via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net<mailto:stagecraft at theatrical.net>> wrote:

Ok here.

On 3/31/20 8:55 AM, Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft wrote:
This list has been rather quiet. I thought I would check in and see how folks are doing.

Remember if you are in need of help there are various ways to get it. Whether you need help medically, emotionally, or physically (or foods) there are groups for this. If you need help finding one for you or someone you know ask. We should be able to come up with it.

Take care all, keep the jokes going, laughter can help.
We need to stick together.

Jeff Kanyuck



--
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com<http://www.DurandInterstellar.com> & www.Durandinterstellar.ru<http://www.Durandinterstellar.ru>



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From JKanyuck at Harford.edu  Wed Apr  1 17:18:28 2020
From: JKanyuck at Harford.edu (Jeffrey Kanyuck)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 17:18:28 +0000
Subject: [SML] [EXTERNAL]  Re:  Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CANFF+pOQsgez=O23agvaCsutYPVbbyHeyH59_dd-wSoJJQmjvA@mail.gmail.com>
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That is hilarious to me that our partners have the same name. Luckily I am not in such diar arrangements due to having a quite extensive honey do list.
Jeff Kanyuck
________________________________
From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of herrick goldman via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:19 PM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: herrick goldman <herrick at hglightingdesign.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

Please use caution: This email was generated outside of HCC.

All good in Brooklyn.  It's only a matter of time until Anastasia murders me.. Probably when the whisky runs out. No jury would convict. It's been a pleasure folks.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 12:13 Stephen Rees via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net<mailto:stagecraft at theatrical.net>> wrote:
Mostly good here in Dunkirk, NY. In our Chautauqua county only 8 confirmed and 1 death at this point. Up the road in BUF, it is significantly worse. Our rural isolation and caution is paying off I think.

Stay safe all.
Stephen E. Rees, Treasurer - Revitalize Dunkirk
Professor Emeritus of Theatre
CCE-CC Master Gardener Volunteer
716.366.0505 Home
716.680.1565 Mobile



On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:56 AM Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net<mailto:stagecraft at theatrical.net>> wrote:
This list has been rather quiet. I thought I would check in and see how folks are doing.

Remember if you are in need of help there are various ways to get it. Whether you need help medically, emotionally, or physically (or foods) there are groups for this. If you need help finding one for you or someone you know ask. We should be able to come up with it.

Take care all, keep the jokes going, laughter can help.
We need to stick together.

Jeff Kanyuck
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From illuminati500 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 17:18:36 2020
From: illuminati500 at gmail.com (Illuminati500)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:18:36 +0100
Subject: [SML] [EXTERNAL]  Re:  Is everyone still ok?
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Test call... 

Sent from my iphone


> On 1 Apr 2020, at 6:16 pm, Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> It is. It comes and goes in spurts depending on how busy all of us are and able or not to get on here. 
> From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of AlexDoesComics via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:04 PM
> To: stagecraft at theatrical.net <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Cc: AlexDoesComics <xmanaxeman33 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
>  
> Please use caution: This email was generated outside of HCC.
> 
> I just joined this list! I?m a high school sophomore and I want to do tech when I grow up. Is this still active? 
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Jerry Durand via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok here.
>> 
>>> On 3/31/20 8:55 AM, Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft wrote:
>>> This list has been rather quiet. I thought I would check in and see how folks are doing. 
>>> 
>>> Remember if you are in need of help there are various ways to get it. Whether you need help medically, emotionally, or physically (or foods) there are groups for this. If you need help finding one for you or someone you know ask. We should be able to come up with it. 
>>> 
>>> Take care all, keep the jokes going, laughter can help. 
>>> We need to stick together.
>>> 
>>> Jeff Kanyuck 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
>> www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru
>> 
>> ____________________________________________________________
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From JKanyuck at Harford.edu  Wed Apr  1 17:19:05 2020
From: JKanyuck at Harford.edu (Jeffrey Kanyuck)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 17:19:05 +0000
Subject: [SML] [EXTERNAL]  Re:  Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CACXFVrmazLaMSQDxCvk9etzf41V3gMtD6Qh5CS+6iRALtZ59KA@mail.gmail.com>
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Nice!
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From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Jon Lagerquist via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:26 PM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Jon Lagerquist <jon at lagerquist.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

Please use caution: This email was generated outside of HCC.


Doing well in southern California. Sun comes up and goes down. More
time to not clean the house.
--
Jon Lagerquist
--

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 9:22 AM Tim Catlett via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> I?m ?ok? in Brooklyn too. No whisky and the only jury is my cat.
>
> Be safe everyone. Please.
>
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:20 herrick goldman via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>
>> All good in Brooklyn.  It's only a matter of time until Anastasia murders me.. Probably when the whisky runs out. No jury would convict. It's been a pleasure folks.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 12:13 Stephen Rees via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mostly good here in Dunkirk, NY. In our Chautauqua county only 8 confirmed and 1 death at this point. Up the road in BUF, it is significantly worse. Our rural isolation and caution is paying off I think.
>>>
>>> Stay safe all.
>>> Stephen E. Rees, Treasurer - Revitalize Dunkirk
>>> Professor Emeritus of Theatre
>>> CCE-CC Master Gardener Volunteer
>>> 716.366.0505 Home
>>> 716.680.1565 Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:56 AM Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This list has been rather quiet. I thought I would check in and see how folks are doing.
>>>>
>>>> Remember if you are in need of help there are various ways to get it. Whether you need help medically, emotionally, or physically (or foods) there are groups for this. If you need help finding one for you or someone you know ask. We should be able to come up with it.
>>>>
>>>> Take care all, keep the jokes going, laughter can help.
>>>> We need to stick together.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Kanyuck
>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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> Mobile: 414-975-4424
>
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From JKanyuck at Harford.edu  Wed Apr  1 17:19:44 2020
From: JKanyuck at Harford.edu (Jeffrey Kanyuck)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 17:19:44 +0000
Subject: [SML] [EXTERNAL]  Re:  Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAF5K5-W7rxPdK8wB+YBdU+VQ976A3x-BysHWDQiW9D1+tp5y=A@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAFVi_wH-GvYoOEacZi6D+ibQnF6M48k_oZ5jtShcrzuvKg4M7A@mail.gmail.com>,
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Yes, we have had a huge number of events cancelled or delayed to next season also.
________________________________
From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Dan Sheehan via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:27 PM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Dan Sheehan <dsheehan.sml at gmail.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

Please use caution: This email was generated outside of HCC.

Personally OK (so far) here in Walpole MA.
May show has been moved to September.

--
...Dan Sheehan
Fixer of things that break
TD Walpole (MA) Footlighters

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From litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 17:32:01 2020
From: litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com (Stephen Litterst)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 13:32:01 -0400
Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update
In-Reply-To: <yo16ygfuc4dk8ffc94e6iwc5.1585761320923@email.android.com>
References: <yo16ygfuc4dk8ffc94e6iwc5.1585761320923@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <53c90300-271a-ef0e-4d89-421df772285a@gmail.com>

As do all who survive Ithaca College.

Steve L

On 4/1/20 1:15 PM, sdwheaton via Stagecraft wrote:
> Dang, that kid from Clarence turned out pretty good!
> 
> Stuart
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ryan Mutton via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Date: 4/1/2020 9:38 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Cc: Ryan Mutton <ryan.mutton at gmail.com>
> Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update
> 
> Welcome to the list, Abbey. I showed up here some 12 years ago and 
> haven't left. It's a good bunch of folks.
> FYI: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8158?hl=en
> 
> To everyone else, Hi! It's been a minute so here's an update for anyone 
> playing along at home.
> 
> I have a very expensive piece of paper above my desk from Ithaca College 
> that says I know how to do theatre, my first Broadway check tucked into 
> that frame, and a Local 1 Apprentice card in my wallet.
> 
> -Moved to NYC in January of 2015
> -Freelanced off-Broadway for a year and a half and then found a full 
> time gig drafting lighting systems for TV studios.
> -Took the Local 1 test in '16, got placed as an apprentice at NBC/30 
> Rock in the electric shop last January. Still there for the foreseeable 
> future.
> 
> I miss theatre a lot but there's something nice about an 8a-4p 40 hour 
> week.
> 
> NBC cut down to the bone so I was sent home on the 19th. My girlfriend 
> and I are hunkered down in our apartment cooking and baking to pass the 
> time. My current big project is my new sourdough starter.
> 
> Last week I sous-vided a brisket and finished it in the oven. BBQ 
> sacrilege or way of the future?
> 
> Stay healthy, all.
> rdm
> 
> -- 
> Ryan Mutton
> 716.946.5801
> 
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-- 
Stephen Litterst            Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst at udel.edu           Mitchell Hall
302/831-0601                University of Delaware




From jimdaveprod at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 17:42:00 2020
From: jimdaveprod at gmail.com (Jim Pritchard)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 13:42:00 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
Message-ID: <CAHV+UE87ssAxjVjzad9Ju9EuvFciFvwYNR+T9WMQwy3+y=4Uiw@mail.gmail.com>

Checking in a little farther North than Steve Rees (or east if you follow
the Thruway Directions) just outside of Buffalo NY... while the work is
clearly dried up for now, I am helping church manage their live stream
(which they started before any mandates in an early attempt to start social
distancing).  Very thankful for having put in a Dante Network which make
integrating the audio significantly easier and clearer...

Family is healthy (barring the very  mild concussion the wife got falling
off her bike on Friday) but our County has the largest number of cases in
the State outside of NYC metro...

-- 
Jim Pritchard

Jim and Dave Productions, Inc.

(716)465-3784
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From litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 18:19:13 2020
From: litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com (Stephen Litterst)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 14:19:13 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAHV+UE87ssAxjVjzad9Ju9EuvFciFvwYNR+T9WMQwy3+y=4Uiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHV+UE87ssAxjVjzad9Ju9EuvFciFvwYNR+T9WMQwy3+y=4Uiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8fd2001f-b71b-cf56-2600-1712cd72d6d5@gmail.com>

Checking in from my improvised home office in the First State.  All is 
quiet here.

Seriously, there's really not much to report.

Be well,

Steve L.

-- 
Stephen Litterst            Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst at udel.edu           Mitchell Hall
302/831-0601                University of Delaware




From lschreib at sdsu.edu  Wed Apr  1 18:58:58 2020
From: lschreib at sdsu.edu (lschreib)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 12:58:58 -0600
Subject: [SML] Back again, doing fine
Message-ID: <5e84e474.1c69fb81.8537b.8c19@mx.google.com>

I've been on this list since the mid-90s, but only perused the digest for the last 5 years or so. There was a problem with my posting because of a email address change, and I was too busy (ok, lazy) to fix it. But like most of us here, I've got a little more time on my hands.?I retired from San Diego State in 05, but kept teaching part time. Sold the house there last year and moved to Gila New Mexico: population 310. We ARE social distancing. My nearest neighbor is 1/4 mile away.For the past decade I've had a side gig with Sapsis Rigging doing safety inspections on cruise ships. That ain't happening again any time soon. But it saves me a 3-1/2 hour drive to the nearest airport.Looks like I will have more time to work on the USITT Advanced Stage Automation class, with Jack Miller of NCSA, which will premiere? .? .? .? someday.? Other than that, you can find me in my hot tub with a glass of wine and a million dollar view.?Excuse me while I attempt to wash the image of Dave Vick without pants outa my contacts?Regards,Loren?"When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich".
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From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Wed Apr  1 19:23:17 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:23:17 -0700
Subject: [SML] Back again, doing fine
In-Reply-To: <5e84e474.1c69fb81.8537b.8c19@mx.google.com>
References: <5e84e474.1c69fb81.8537b.8c19@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <ba10e592-a711-f162-ae2c-9cb37412839f@durandinterstellar.com>

When our new house is finished we may have to add a clothing required?
rule for the sauna concerning certain guests.? :) :)

The house was just about to get a roof when the "everyone's on vacation"
rule hit.

Walk through video made the day before the vacation for all the idle
inspectors to nit-pick.? :)

https://youtu.be/EmSTWAQvJXo

Meanwhile The Tar Pit house construction next to us here in California
has stopped after a week and a half of daily tarring of the patches of
flat roof some idiot architect designed into the McMansion-to-be.? Last
week they turned up the temperature on the kettle to do...I don't know
what but there was an eye watering cloud of smoke in the neighborhood
that led to more coughing than the virus.

https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/house-next-door-how-not-build-house-74988


On 4/1/20 11:58 AM, lschreib via Stagecraft wrote:
> Other than that, you can find me in my hot tub with a glass of wine
> and a million dollar view.?
>
> Excuse me while I attempt to wash the image of Dave Vick without pants
> outa my contacts?
>
>
>

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru

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From JEA00321 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  1 19:45:23 2020
From: JEA00321 at yahoo.com (June Abernathy)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 15:45:23 -0400
Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1585755136.9574.stagecraft_theatrical.net@theatrical.net>
References: <mailman.27.1585755136.9574.stagecraft_theatrical.net@theatrical.net>
Message-ID: <2E71359C-314C-4228-825B-016DAB2B1F86@yahoo.com>

Aw. Hi Ryan! Glad you?re doing great. Seems like just yesterday we were helping you pick a school. Get a drink with Herrick once we?re out of this mess. ? Or me, for that matter - I?m supposed to do a workshop in NYC this Summer. We?ll see if that still happens. 

June Abernathy
IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL)
Spotlight Supervisor
Disney?s The Lion King National Tour

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 12:51 PM, stagecraft-request at theatrical.net wrote:
> 
> From: Ryan Mutton <ryan.mutton at gmail.com>
> To: Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Subject: [SML] Did someone say Kid? A Long Overdue Update




From bpurdy at rochester.rr.com  Thu Apr  2 01:30:11 2020
From: bpurdy at rochester.rr.com (Bruce Purdy)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 21:30:11 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still OK?
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR07MB4920856DFF61F028B0CF6312D8C80@BYAPR07MB4920.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
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	The opera I?m lighting in July is still on ? or now. Magic shows don?t exist until further notice. 
Other than those, these days i have a full time ?Day job? (Except that it?s actually an overnight shift) manufacturing medical supplies, so it?s an ?essential job.?
On the one hand, I?m thankful for having a regular job and pay check, but on the other hand I?m jealous of so many folks that get to stay home. I have a huge backlog of things that I never have the time to get to in my home office and around the house. 

	Lynda was thrown out of work four weeks before she was due to retire anyway, so other than a little pay and time to finalise the insurance transition, it was?t too bad for her. She?s just paranoid about me working and potentially bringing something home.

Bruce
-----
Bruce Purdy
Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
http://brucepurdy.com








From misswisc at aol.com  Thu Apr  2 02:26:19 2020
From: misswisc at aol.com (Kristi R-C)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 02:26:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAEy8B2kNiCWggtEshX1+jku5ud78nQr24-W7VAo=vpxboTR1tA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<1738233779.437519.1585683138903@mail.yahoo.com>
	<CAEy8B2n8rfYoWuqD984vH3rxh8f9T6y6+u8L71Of7FN6d1j3cg@mail.gmail.com>
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I do, but I'm also frugal and live in a 105 year old house that needs to be re-sided/insulated, so warm clothes and hot beverages are the choice.?
Y?might consider getting your furnace checked, if it?s that cold; I assume you Zoom indoors...



-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Vick via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Dave Vick <dave.vick at gmail.com>; stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Wed, Apr 1, 2020 8:26 am
Subject: Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:45 AM Kristi R-C <misswisc at aol.com> wrote

Too cold to go pants-less, but sweats and fleece have been the order of the day.?

Y?might consider getting your furnace checked, if it?s that cold; I assume you Zoom indoors...



Remind me to call before I come to visit you. ;)

Prolly a good idea...


-- 
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
Sent from my #%!^?? iPhone____________________________________________________________
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From JKanyuck at Harford.edu  Thu Apr  2 02:32:11 2020
From: JKanyuck at Harford.edu (Jeffrey Kanyuck)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 02:32:11 +0000
Subject: [SML] [EXTERNAL]  Re:  Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CA+7E2uyCC=5hx+A0L1a=SBCOm_yfnqMcTtvEqjS=eO0ZRwd14w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.6.1585676504.9574.stagecraft_theatrical.net@theatrical.net>
	<CA+7E2uxsDjfzWxKzOHmCuXxCfmzG-q87aeyTDUGn3iCc=_VOug@mail.gmail.com>,
	<CA+7E2uyCC=5hx+A0L1a=SBCOm_yfnqMcTtvEqjS=eO0ZRwd14w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR03MB50563D5F4AFDEA0E18E9C951CEC60@MN2PR03MB5056.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

The reason is if you happen to carry it in at some point from contact with it somewhere else, it could stay there until students or orthers come back in for work and catch it and start spreading it again.
________________________________
From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Wayne Rasmussen via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:18 PM
To: Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Wayne Rasmussen <rasmuw at blair.edu>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

Please use caution: This email was generated outside of HCC.


I'm still working, teaching mathematics online and having Google Meets
with my students.  I'm allowed to use a classroom in the math building
so I can use a whiteboard and the fast internet.  They won't let me
into the theater even though I'd be the only one there.  Blair has a
reduced janitorial staff.  Why would they need to disinfect if I'm the
only person there?  The positive side is that I have more time to work
on our house.

Wayne Rasmussen

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From JKanyuck at Harford.edu  Thu Apr  2 02:34:07 2020
From: JKanyuck at Harford.edu (Jeffrey Kanyuck)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 02:34:07 +0000
Subject: [SML] [EXTERNAL]  Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <ABF5E95E-22B4-4983-9A78-522802B3B274@bgsu.edu>
References: <ABF5E95E-22B4-4983-9A78-522802B3B274@bgsu.edu>
Message-ID: <MN2PR03MB50563C133F43E4387E4F2A08CEC60@MN2PR03MB5056.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Maybe you could have them add in cues that are called for a show? With standby, ready, and go?
________________________________
From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Kelly Ann Mangan via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:27 PM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Kelly Ann Mangan <mangank at bgsu.edu>
Subject: Re: [SML] [EXTERNAL] Is everyone still ok?

Please use caution: This email was generated outside of HCC.


Greetings from Ohio.  We?re all pretty much intact.  Unhappy about the cancelled shows and trying to figure out how to get students some sort of comparable production activity.  At this point, I?m having them set up stuff on their kitchen table, spike it all with tiny little spike marks, make a scene shift chart, and then video their set changes for me.   I hate that some of these students would have been having their capstone production experience, but at least I can keep pushing them to add the skills they?ll need once they get out into the job market ? once there is one again.

In the land of the university ? I?m swamped with this new online delivery.  But too many of my friends in the professional world are feeling the pinch and finding themselves unemployed after as many as 40 years with the same company.

Here?s to keeping sane, helping each other, and a speedy return to the things that feed our souls.



Kelly



Kelly Wiegant Mangan |  MFA

Design|Tech Faculty

Bowling Green State University |Department of Theatre and Film

212 Wolfe Center | Bowling Green | OH |43403

419-372-7171 | Mangank at bgsu.edu

http://www.bgsu.edu/arts-and-sciences/theatre-and-film.html



Proud member of

S*P*A*M -  Society of Properties Artisan Managers

The Stage Managers? Association

The Guild of Scenic Artists

And

USITT ? The United States Institute for Theatre Technology







From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Reply-To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 12:05 PM
To: Steven Hood via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Jeffrey Kanyuck <JKanyuck at Harford.edu>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [SML] Is everyone still ok?



This list has been rather quiet. I thought I would check in and see how folks are doing.



Remember if you are in need of help there are various ways to get it. Whether you need help medically, emotionally, or physically (or foods) there are groups for this. If you need help finding one for you or someone you know ask. We should be able to come up with it.



Take care all, keep the jokes going, laughter can help.

We need to stick together.



Jeff Kanyuck
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From Stephen.Rees at fredonia.edu  Thu Apr  2 13:11:22 2020
From: Stephen.Rees at fredonia.edu (Stephen Rees)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 09:11:22 -0400
Subject: [SML] Back again, doing fine
In-Reply-To: <5e84e474.1c69fb81.8537b.8c19@mx.google.com>
References: <5e84e474.1c69fb81.8537b.8c19@mx.google.com>
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Glad to see you here again, Loren. I had been wondering where you
disappeared to. Sounds like all is well. Take good care, sir!
Steve
Stephen E. Rees, Treasurer - Revitalize Dunkirk
Professor Emeritus of Theatre
CCE-CC Master Gardener Volunteer
716.366.0505 Home
716.680.1565 Mobile



On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:59 PM lschreib via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I've been on this list since the mid-90s, but only perused the digest for
> the last 5 years or so. There was a problem with my posting because of a
> email address change, and I was too busy (ok, lazy) to fix it. But like
> most of us here, I've got a little more time on my hands.
>
> I retired from San Diego State in 05, but kept teaching part time. Sold
> the house there last year and moved to Gila New Mexico: population 310. We
> ARE social distancing. My nearest neighbor is 1/4 mile away.
>
> For the past decade I've had a side gig with Sapsis Rigging doing safety
> inspections on cruise ships. That ain't happening again any time soon. But
> it saves me a 3-1/2 hour drive to the nearest airport.
>
> Looks like I will have more time to work on the USITT Advanced Stage
> Automation class, with Jack Miller of NCSA, which will premiere  .  .  .
> someday.  Other than that, you can find me in my hot tub with a glass of
> wine and a million dollar view.
>
> Excuse me while I attempt to wash the image of Dave Vick without pants
> outa my contacts
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Loren
>
> "When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich".
>
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From dave.vick at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 15:58:50 2020
From: dave.vick at gmail.com (Dave Vick)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:58:50 -0400
Subject: [SML] Back again, doing fine
In-Reply-To: <5e84e474.1c69fb81.8537b.8c19@mx.google.com>
References: <5e84e474.1c69fb81.8537b.8c19@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAEy8B2nmxSeODLVqk9KFjGwRz2TjdLn56h6W6fJw6TdQPmOjKg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:59 PM Loren Schreiber wrote:

> Excuse me while I attempt to wash the image of Dave Vick without pants outa my contacts

Serves you right for looking under my desk...

(glad to hear you're still kickin' around)

--
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
Yeah; *that* guy...



From ben.hain at rctc.edu  Thu Apr  2 18:15:17 2020
From: ben.hain at rctc.edu (Hain, Ben P)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 18:15:17 +0000
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR03MB5056589B902059D9006FCFF0CEC80@MN2PR03MB5056.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <170d5903638.27f3.6f7d1c9102b81228b121511c9b3868d0.ref@yahoo.com>, 
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Hi from Rochester MN and home of the WFMC - World Famous Mayo Clinic.

Every show around here has been cancelled or postponed. Our governor ordered 'Shelter in Place' last Monday.
Our College went on spring break March 9 just as all this was breaking and we never came back. I'm very fortunate they haven't laid anyone off. Lots of online training and cleaning the shop and I did buy a bunch of clear plastic bins to organize the props area... I did some of it... then lost my motivation.
Sure do appreciate ETC and their online training and the webinars they're setting up. Great Stuff!

My wife works for Mayo Clinic in a non-patient contact area and she has started working from home. We live on a farm in the country and don't have very good internet options so that's been a challenge. Getting a new internet provider on the 13th! Have to bounce the signal off a barn to get to the house, but hope it's better than the 'WildBlue' satellite service we have now.

I am certainly enjoying my extra free time at home and getting machinery ready for spring. Doing repairs and maintenance that I don't usually have time for with shows opening and commencement exercises and regular college activities.

We have a 25yr old daughter with Downs Syndrome, but no extra respiratory issues thankfully, and we pulled her from all her programs back on March 16th. She's loving being home and watching movies and doing whatever she wants.

So we're OK.
It's good to keep busy during the day; helps the mind from running away with itself.
But at night, when it's quiet and dark... that's when things sneak back in, you know?
Working on that.

Keep being safe all of you.
We know we'll get through this. Trying to focus on the positives.

Ben


Ben Hain
Technical Director
Hill Theater - RCTC






From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> On Behalf Of Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 10:55 AM
To: Steven Hood via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Jeffrey Kanyuck <JKanyuck at Harford.edu>
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

This list has been rather quiet. I thought I would check in and see how folks are doing.

--

Take care all, keep the jokes going, laughter can help.
We need to stick together.

Jeff Kanyuck
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From scparker at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 19:03:15 2020
From: scparker at gmail.com (Scott C. Parker)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 15:03:15 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR03MB5056589B902059D9006FCFF0CEC80@MN2PR03MB5056.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <170d5903638.27f3.6f7d1c9102b81228b121511c9b3868d0.ref@yahoo.com>
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Jeff, this is a great thread. Thanks for starting it.

All,
Well, I've actually been more busy than usual over these past couple of
weeks. Strange as it sounds. My day job as Director of Lighting for an
events staging company has been four and a half years so far.
Don't get me wrong, all of our in person events have cancelled. several
staff has been furloughed. I'm doing training in Vectorworks and more to
keep our remaining staff busy to justify keeping them fully engaged and
employed.

My wife is a professor of music ed at Temple and they've moved completely
to online classes. Fortunately for her, she has a couple of classes already
online, so the transition hasn't required learning a whole new thing.

My 17y/o is the most I feel for. HS senior and all the prom/graduation type
stuff is getting canned. I don't know if they'll be a yearbook or not.
The 12 y/o trudges through activities between the allotted Fortnite playing
sessions.

More baking is happening.

Hugs and elbow bumps to all.
Scott

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:56 AM Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

>
> Take care all, keep the jokes going, laughter can help.
> We need to stick together.
>
> Jeff Kanyuck
> _
>
-- 
Thanks,
Scott

Scott C. Parker
Lighting Designer http://scpld.com/ Studio 212-533-3430  Cell 718-757-6661
http://twitter.com/stageseminars
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lightingdesigner
USA829, IES, PLASA, USITT, ETCP certified Rigger & Electrician
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From john at frugalaudio.com  Thu Apr  2 19:07:26 2020
From: john at frugalaudio.com (John T. Cotton)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 15:07:26 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAHV+UE87ssAxjVjzad9Ju9EuvFciFvwYNR+T9WMQwy3+y=4Uiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20204215726.899796@FrugalLenovo>

Greetings all from a looongg time lurker, and rare poster.  Also north of Stephen and just the tiniest smidge south of Jim I think, right in the city in Buffalo. Things here are as well as can be expected.  The vibe in certain grocery stores is pretty odd.  My neighbors all seem to be doing well.  My local gig began cancelling shows sometime around 3/13, and quickly postponed and rescheduled all of April.  They were good enough to give all of us (even casuals) a few weeks PTO.  Now they've furloughed almost the entire staff indefinitely.  All my freelance work looks to be gone until at least June, I imagine more like July.  So I expect to be signing up for unemployment for the first time in 30+ years of working.  C'est la vie.  Meantime, plenty of work to be done on the house.  Buying bits and pieces of gear and tinkering.  There's whiskey & rum in the house, along with the makings for a pile of homebrew cider & wine.  Veggies to plant in the yard before too long.  
Hope everybody stays happy, healthy, and safe til it's time to raise the curtain and push the faders up again.
JTC

On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 13:42:00 -0400, Jim Pritchard via Stagecraft wrote:
>?Checking in a little farther North than Steve Rees (or east if you
>?follow the Thruway Directions) just outside of Buffalo NY... while
>?the work is clearly dried up for now, I am helping church manage
>?their live stream (which they started before any mandates in an
>?early attempt??to start social distancing).???Very thankful for
>?having put in a Dante Network which make integrating the audio
>?significantly easier and clearer...??
>
>?Family is healthy (barring the very???mild concussion the wife got
>?falling off her bike on Friday) but our County has the largest
>?number of cases in the State outside of NYC metro...??


John T. Cotton
Event Audio-Stage Lighting-Production Management
Freelance Engineering & Consulting
John at frugalaudio.com
WWW.FRUGALAUDIO.COM
(716) 213-7485




From bpurdy at rochester.rr.com  Fri Apr  3 00:16:31 2020
From: bpurdy at rochester.rr.com (Bruce Purdy)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 20:16:31 -0400
Subject: [SML] Les Mis Family
References: <8B97FB38-8EE2-4EF0-BE06-D524812077DE@williampurdy.com>
Message-ID: <6D17ABE3-0551-4C58-8190-D883F3B1EFCF@rochester.rr.com>

Thought you might like this?

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/01/825232156/u-k-familys-lockdown-themed-rendition-of-les-mis-is-a-delight <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/01/825232156/u-k-familys-lockdown-themed-rendition-of-les-mis-is-a-delight>

Bruce
-----
Bruce Purdy
Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
http://brucepurdy.com





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From jzstagecraft at gmail.com  Fri Apr  3 00:27:13 2020
From: jzstagecraft at gmail.com (Jonathan Zitelman)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 19:27:13 -0500
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
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Pretty quiet here in central Texas (much like I am on this list).
Thankfully I'm not in the main urban area of San Antonio so cases have been
light and movement is not totally locked down.  Trying to work from home,
but one of my many hats has me on the emergency committee at the university
which meets daily.  Spending a lot of my time taking advantage of the
multitude of free training (and totally not avoiding using the next month
to clean and maintain all the 100+ light fixtures which are 10 years
overdue).  Wishing things were a little more free so I could hire my
out-of-work IATSE friends to help me do some upkeep.  Thoughts to all those
without means right now!

Jonathan Zitelman


On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:56 AM Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> This list has been rather quiet. I thought I would check in and see how
> folks are doing.
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From jon at lagerquist.com  Fri Apr  3 04:01:49 2020
From: jon at lagerquist.com (Jon Lagerquist)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 21:01:49 -0700
Subject: [SML] Les Mis Family
In-Reply-To: <6D17ABE3-0551-4C58-8190-D883F3B1EFCF@rochester.rr.com>
References: <8B97FB38-8EE2-4EF0-BE06-D524812077DE@williampurdy.com>
	<6D17ABE3-0551-4C58-8190-D883F3B1EFCF@rochester.rr.com>
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Pretty awesome.
--
Jon Lagerquist
--


On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:16 PM Bruce Purdy via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Thought you might like this?
>
>
> https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/01/825232156/u-k-familys-lockdown-themed-rendition-of-les-mis-is-a-delight
>
>
> Bruce
> -----
> Bruce Purdy
> Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
> http://brucepurdy.com
>
>
>
>
>
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From davidtolin at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 20:59:02 2020
From: davidtolin at gmail.com (David Tolin)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 15:59:02 -0500
Subject: [SML] Sign Faster Running Audience
Message-ID: <CAFSkjnrrNNYnSbeYok8MrfQdBdq7x+Sum2YKgLn_f68YFbMMnQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey folks,

I recently shared the documentary Sing Faster: The Stagehand's Ring Cycle
with my students. This was filmed in 1990 at the San Fransisco Opera. Here
is question that was raised by several of my students that one of you
lurking out there may be able to answer: Why does the audience run into the
theater? https://youtu.be/ReuqtxcXJBo?t=440 The best that I can come up
with is that perhaps it is general seating? Anyone out there know anything
about this?

I hope you are all doing well.

David Tolin
Associate Technical Director
University of Texas at Austin
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From bpotter at sps.edu  Mon Apr  6 21:02:20 2020
From: bpotter at sps.edu (Bill Potter)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 21:02:20 +0000
Subject: [SML] Sign Faster Running Audience
In-Reply-To: <CAFSkjnrrNNYnSbeYok8MrfQdBdq7x+Sum2YKgLn_f68YFbMMnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFSkjnrrNNYnSbeYok8MrfQdBdq7x+Sum2YKgLn_f68YFbMMnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77BD1327-C410-42DB-90E4-F494901A68A6@sps.edu>

I believe that?s standing room ticket holders. You can briefly see them lining up two or three deep at the back of the house.

Bill Potter
bpotter at sps.edu<mailto:bpotter at sps.edu>


On Apr 6, 2020, at 4:59 PM, David Tolin via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net<mailto:stagecraft at theatrical.net>> wrote:

Hey folks,

I recently shared the documentary Sing Faster: The Stagehand's Ring Cycle with my students. This was filmed in 1990 at the San Fransisco Opera. Here is question that was raised by several of my students that one of you lurking out there may be able to answer: Why does the audience run into the theater? https://youtu.be/ReuqtxcXJBo?t=440<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_ReuqtxcXJBo-3Ft-3D440&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=5h8Gkq0fx48GmQd67P3Avw&m=jpJLwzXCF72fsfY_7HrRS5CP1OnAgfBWVV9tEO_MCJE&s=f0-rBGxXn9ubIlkSj2PRkyykkT-rV18agrX1CofWuoA&e=> The best that I can come up with is that perhaps it is general seating? Anyone out there know anything about this?

I hope you are all doing well.

David Tolin
Associate Technical Director
University of Texas at Austin
____________________________________________________________
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From litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 14:07:21 2020
From: litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com (Stephen Litterst)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 10:07:21 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <1fae3576-dd97-49cb-a18d-13481da3cecc@email.android.com>
References: <1fae3576-dd97-49cb-a18d-13481da3cecc@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <a1cdcaaa-038f-42e4-a6e3-d43afe695747@gmail.com>


Keeping on in Delaware.  Campus is shut down (I sure hope the custodians 
turned off the house lights.)  Waiting on news about whether we'll be 
hosting virtual commencement in my theater.

In the interim, I'm getting a lot of ETCP renewal credits, thanks to 
ETC's Study Hall.  As my unit is under the IT umbrella on campus, I've 
been assigned to front-line support for the 6,000+ classes that have 
moved online through Zoom and other platforms.  I've always appreciated 
good online support, but I don't think I quite appreciated how difficult 
it is.  Hat tip to those of you who make it look easy.

Steve L.


-- 
Stephen Litterst            Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst at udel.edu           Mitchell Hall
302/831-0601                University of Delaware




From fsellers at chauvetlighting.com  Thu Apr  9 14:42:29 2020
From: fsellers at chauvetlighting.com (Ford Sellers)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 14:42:29 +0000
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAAT1qjt7_j15M9252NmC-kgcLXb_GXjRzC=0T9LVozPhiHusHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <170d5903638.27f3.6f7d1c9102b81228b121511c9b3868d0.ref@yahoo.com>
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Things in south Florida are quiet.
Most of Chauvet?s development team is working from home.  We are actually still very busy (finishing the gear we planned on launching at Prolight and InfoCOMM).  We?ll see how this affects our launch cycle, as the majority of our business stopped on a dime?
Once the industry is back up and running, many of us will have burned through whatever capital had pegged for new equipment, so we expect demand to be slow to ramp-up.  This means that we?ve got to be very particular about which new items we move into production, as there is significant cash outlay to setup/re-fit production lines, and we tend to manufacture in quantities of 500 (for very large/expensive moving heads) to 5000 (for small/inexpensive items)?which is a lot of inventory to sit on, if no one?s buying it.

Tough times out there for a lot of our customers.  I hope that they?ll be able to hang-on, and make it through this.  We?ve already seen a few fold.

-Ford

From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> On Behalf Of Jonathan Zitelman via Stagecraft
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 8:27 PM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Jonathan Zitelman <jzstagecraft at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

Pretty quiet here in central Texas (much like I am on this list).  Thankfully I'm not in the main urban area of San Antonio so cases have been light and movement is not totally locked down.  Trying to work from home, but one of my many hats has me on the emergency committee at the university which meets daily.  Spending a lot of my time taking advantage of the multitude of free training (and totally not avoiding using the next month to clean and maintain all the 100+ light fixtures which are 10 years overdue).  Wishing things were a little more free so I could hire my out-of-work IATSE friends to help me do some upkeep.  Thoughts to all those without means right now!

Jonathan Zitelman


On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:56 AM Jeffrey Kanyuck via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net<mailto:stagecraft at theatrical.net>> wrote:
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From jonares at arescreative.com  Thu Apr  9 14:49:16 2020
From: jonares at arescreative.com (Jon Ares)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 07:49:16 -0700
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR20MB32124BF0CCE71440FEFA722BC7C10@DM6PR20MB3212.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 7:43 AM Ford Sellers via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> Once the industry is back up and running, many of us will have burned through whatever capital had pegged for new equipment, so we expect demand to be slow to ramp-up.  This means that we?ve got to be very particular about which new items we move into production, as there is significant cash outlay to setup/re-fit production lines, and we tend to manufacture in quantities of 500 (for very large/expensive moving heads) to 5000 (for small/inexpensive items)?which is a lot of inventory to sit on, if no one?s buying it.

Well hopefully the biz(es) will get back on their feet soon afterward.
I've got a truck full of Ovation fresnels and Maverick profiles due
here in the fall! Fingers crossed....


-- 
Jon Ares
www.arescreative.com



From fsellers at chauvetlighting.com  Thu Apr  9 16:00:37 2020
From: fsellers at chauvetlighting.com (Ford Sellers)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:00:37 +0000
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAN1Z+zYekub1SacZbBbtTqgnFoQfj8SHc=MeVgLP3exA8jLHFQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Well then, I owe you a beverage of your choice!!

Seriously, though... We are trying to focus on what we can do to help the industry.

I'll be presenting at USITT Presents at the end of the month (Challenges and solutions for mixing different types of LED Color systems in the same rig).  I hope I'm neither too boring, nor too ignorant... Tune in to see my trainwreck.  Lol.

You may have noticed my other post (a few weeks ago) on the Virtual Classroom that we've set-up with ChamSys.
They will actually attend professor's Zoom (or whatever electronic media) classroom, and guest lecture on topics of your choice.  Plus have some customized projects and/or homework for your students.

This is a great option for folks who need to fill practicum hours with their students (*cough *cough *cough @mangank at bgsu.edu @matthew Whiton).
AND WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT!!

Sorry for the shouting... too much day-drinking.  Herrick is a bad influence.

Re-post of the ChamSys email is below:

I?ve been working with Phil Watson from ChamSys on some ways that we can help Educators.
We?re working to develop a way for College Educators (at first, maybe opening it up further, later down the road) to have custom content for their practicums, and classes.
 
Our goal is to be able to offer a personalized educational opportunity to as many schools as possible.  For Free.  This may include access to recordings, but more importantly, live lectures and interactions with experts in the field.
 
Of course, we can volunteer to guest lecture, and that is a part of this (anyone who would like me to take up an hour of your class time, just email me).  And of course, there is a ton of free ?Console Programming? training content already available from ChamSys.  
However, this is different.  Instead of offering a bunch of pre-recorded trainings and sales-pitches, we?re interested in developing custom content for your specific classroom.

Classes might include things like discussing the philosophies behind how consoles think, so that regardless of whether you?re working with Chauvet fixtures and ChamSys Consoles, or ETC Consoles and Fixtures, your students can learn how to work efficiently. But, we also want for them to practice what they learn (to have a class/homework component).  So that we?re not only offering a live lecture, but a way to actually integrate this into existing curricula.
 
If you click on the link below, it will allow you to pick a date and time for a 20 min. personal brainstorming session with Phil and his team.  This is where you?ll discuss the sort of things you?ll need for your students, so that we can put together an appropriate lesson that is specific to your class, and students.
 
https://go.oncehub.com/BrainstormingOnlinetraining
 
Since ChamSys is a controller company, you might want to start with topics like: Programming Philosophy (Tracking vs non-tracking), Integrating Paperwork into a console (via Vectorworks, or the consoles own system), Limits and advantages of Pre-Viz, etc.  However, since Phil and his team have extensive experience in all aspects of live entertainment including, Theatre, Dance, Professional Touring, Rock & Roll, corporate A/V and Festival lighting, you may decide that you want to use a portion of the class time to discuss careers? 
The point is that it's completely  up to you.  
 
We are here to support you.
 
There will be a more formalized communication on this going out from our marketing department, but I wanted make sure that this group (especially) had access to this information sooner, rather than later.

From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Thu Apr  9 16:17:00 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:17:00 -0700
Subject: [SML] Zoom
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR20MB32122E3743972898CDAF10B9C7C10@DM6PR20MB3212.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
References: <170d5903638.27f3.6f7d1c9102b81228b121511c9b3868d0.ref@yahoo.com>
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Seeing Zoom mentioned, I wonder if the revelations of it being easy to
hack and leaving undesirable (easy to hack) software on your system even
after an uninstall has changed anyone's use of it.? I do see a number of
organizations have outright banned it.

Of course finding out popular "free" software has hidden "features"
should be no surprise, using things like this for private or secret
information is never a good idea.

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru




From Stephen.Rees at fredonia.edu  Thu Apr  9 19:03:41 2020
From: Stephen.Rees at fredonia.edu (Stephen Rees)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:03:41 -0400
Subject: [SML] Zoom
In-Reply-To: <fe08f716-6eac-959f-4395-a44551053a7c@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <170d5903638.27f3.6f7d1c9102b81228b121511c9b3868d0.ref@yahoo.com>
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Well, this bears looking into. Thanks, Jerry.
Steve

Stephen E. Rees, Treasurer - Revitalize Dunkirk
Professor Emeritus of Theatre
CCE-CC Master Gardener Volunteer
716.366.0505 Home
716.680.1565 Mobile



On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:17 PM Jerry Durand via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Seeing Zoom mentioned, I wonder if the revelations of it being easy to
> hack and leaving undesirable (easy to hack) software on your system even
> after an uninstall has changed anyone's use of it.  I do see a number of
> organizations have outright banned it.
>
> Of course finding out popular "free" software has hidden "features"
> should be no surprise, using things like this for private or secret
> information is never a good idea.
>
> --
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
> www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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From misswisc at aol.com  Thu Apr  9 19:51:44 2020
From: misswisc at aol.com (Kristi R-C)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:51:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR20MB32122E3743972898CDAF10B9C7C10@DM6PR20MB3212.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <959278684.3339855.1586461904280@mail.yahoo.com>

Phil is a fabulous trainer - this is a great opportunity and I hope lots of colleges will take advantage of it!?
We're watching dominoes fall in AV land, too. At one point I had a trip every month planned for a conference or teaching - now all is cancelled through August and I'm waiting for that to cancel too.?
Summerfest - the big music festival in Milwaukee that is usually over 4th of July ?- is now smack dab on top of the AWTE conference in September... reserved my housing as soon as I heard, but prices tripled overnight so some of the other board members haven't done as well.?
Plugging away on the OSHA 30 with some other list denizens... join in the "fun" if you want. I think I picked the company that has absolutely no phreaking clue how to write a quiz question. Ah well.?
Be safe y'all!?
Kristi R-C

-----Original Message-----
From: Ford Sellers via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Ford Sellers <fsellers at chauvetlighting.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 11:07 am
Subject: Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

Well then, I owe you a beverage of your choice!!

Seriously, though... We are trying to focus on what we can do to help the industry.

I'll be presenting at USITT Presents at the end of the month (Challenges and solutions for mixing different types of LED Color systems in the same rig).? I hope I'm neither too boring, nor too ignorant... Tune in to see my trainwreck.? Lol.

You may have noticed my other post (a few weeks ago) on the Virtual Classroom that we've set-up with ChamSys.
They will actually attend professor's Zoom (or whatever electronic media) classroom, and guest lecture on topics of your choice.? Plus have some customized projects and/or homework for your students.

This is a great option for folks who need to fill practicum hours with their students (*cough *cough *cough @mangank at bgsu.edu @matthew Whiton).
AND WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT!!

Sorry for the shouting... too much day-drinking.? Herrick is a bad influence.

Re-post of the ChamSys email is below:

I?ve been working with Phil Watson from ChamSys on some ways that we can help Educators.
We?re working to develop a way for College Educators (at first, maybe opening it up further, later down the road) to have custom content for their practicums, and classes.
 
Our goal is to be able to offer a personalized educational opportunity to as many schools as possible.? For Free.? This may include access to recordings, but more importantly, live lectures and interactions with experts in the field.
 
Of course, we can volunteer to guest lecture, and that is a part of this (anyone who would like me to take up an hour of your class time, just email me).? And of course, there is a ton of free ?Console Programming? training content already available from ChamSys.? 
However, this is different.? Instead of offering a bunch of pre-recorded trainings and sales-pitches, we?re interested in developing custom content for your specific classroom.

Classes might include things like discussing the philosophies behind how consoles think, so that regardless of whether you?re working with Chauvet fixtures and ChamSys Consoles, or ETC Consoles and Fixtures, your students can learn how to work efficiently. But, we also want for them to practice what they learn (to have a class/homework component).? So that we?re not only offering a live lecture, but a way to actually integrate this into existing curricula.
 
If you click on the link below, it will allow you to pick a date and time for a 20 min. personal brainstorming session with Phil and his team.? This is where you?ll discuss the sort of things you?ll need for your students, so that we can put together an appropriate lesson that is specific to your class, and students.
 
https://go.oncehub.com/BrainstormingOnlinetraining
 
Since ChamSys is a controller company, you might want to start with topics like: Programming Philosophy (Tracking vs non-tracking), Integrating Paperwork into a console (via Vectorworks, or the consoles own system), Limits and advantages of Pre-Viz, etc.? However, since Phil and his team have extensive experience in all aspects of live entertainment including, Theatre, Dance, Professional Touring, Rock & Roll, corporate A/V and Festival lighting, you may decide that you want to use a portion of the class time to discuss careers? 
The point is that it's completely? up to you.? 
 
We are here to support you.
 
There will be a more formalized communication on this going out from our marketing department, but I wanted make sure that this group (especially) had access to this information sooner, rather than later.
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From herrick at hglightingdesign.com  Thu Apr  9 20:02:34 2020
From: herrick at hglightingdesign.com (herrick goldman)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:02:34 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
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Kristi do you have the one with the "place the following items in order"
one item is fall arrest, and one is teach the worker about fall arrest.
And for some reason the teaching part is NOT the first most important
thing.  Wtf?

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 15:51 Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Phil is a fabulous trainer - this is a great opportunity and I hope lots
> of colleges will take advantage of it!
>
> We're watching dominoes fall in AV land, too. At one point I had a trip
> every month planned for a conference or teaching - now all is cancelled
> through August and I'm waiting for that to cancel too.
>
> Summerfest - the big music festival in Milwaukee that is usually over 4th
> of July  - is now smack dab on top of the AWTE conference in September...
> reserved my housing as soon as I heard, but prices tripled overnight so
> some of the other board members haven't done as well.
>
> Plugging away on the OSHA 30 with some other list denizens... join in the
> "fun" if you want. I think I picked the company that has absolutely no
> phreaking clue how to write a quiz question. Ah well.
>
> Be safe y'all!
>
> Kristi R-C
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ford Sellers via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Cc: Ford Sellers <fsellers at chauvetlighting.com>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 11:07 am
> Subject: Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
>
> Well then, I owe you a beverage of your choice!!
>
> Seriously, though... We are trying to focus on what we can do to help the
> industry.
>
> I'll be presenting at USITT Presents at the end of the month (Challenges
> and solutions for mixing different types of LED Color systems in the same
> rig).  I hope I'm neither too boring, nor too ignorant... Tune in to see my
> trainwreck.  Lol.
>
> You may have noticed my other post (a few weeks ago) on the Virtual
> Classroom that we've set-up with ChamSys.
> They will actually attend professor's Zoom (or whatever electronic media)
> classroom, and guest lecture on topics of your choice.  Plus have some
> customized projects and/or homework for your students.
>
> This is a great option for folks who need to fill practicum hours with
> their students (*cough *cough *cough @mangank at bgsu.edu @matthew Whiton).
> AND WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT!!
>
> Sorry for the shouting... too much day-drinking.  Herrick is a bad
> influence.
>
> Re-post of the ChamSys email is below:
>
> I?ve been working with Phil Watson from ChamSys on some ways that we can
> help Educators.
> We?re working to develop a way for College Educators (at first, maybe
> opening it up further, later down the road) to have custom content for
> their practicums, and classes.
>
> Our goal is to be able to offer a personalized educational opportunity to
> as many schools as possible.  For Free.  This may include access to
> recordings, but more importantly, live lectures and interactions with
> experts in the field.
>
> Of course, we can volunteer to guest lecture, and that is a part of this
> (anyone who would like me to take up an hour of your class time, just email
> me).  And of course, there is a ton of free ?Console Programming? training
> content already available from ChamSys.
> However, this is different.  Instead of offering a bunch of pre-recorded
> trainings and sales-pitches, we?re interested in developing custom content
> for your specific classroom.
>
> Classes might include things like discussing the philosophies behind how
> consoles think, so that regardless of whether you?re working with Chauvet
> fixtures and ChamSys Consoles, or ETC Consoles and Fixtures, your students
> can learn how to work efficiently. But, we also want for them to practice
> what they learn (to have a class/homework component).  So that we?re not
> only offering a live lecture, but a way to actually integrate this into
> existing curricula.
>
> If you click on the link below, it will allow you to pick a date and time
> for a 20 min. personal brainstorming session with Phil and his team.  This
> is where you?ll discuss the sort of things you?ll need for your students,
> so that we can put together an appropriate lesson that is specific to your
> class, and students.
>
> https://go.oncehub.com/BrainstormingOnlinetraining
>
> Since ChamSys is a controller company, you might want to start with topics
> like: Programming Philosophy (Tracking vs non-tracking), Integrating
> Paperwork into a console (via Vectorworks, or the consoles own system),
> Limits and advantages of Pre-Viz, etc.  However, since Phil and his team
> have extensive experience in all aspects of live entertainment including,
> Theatre, Dance, Professional Touring, Rock & Roll, corporate A/V and
> Festival lighting, you may decide that you want to use a portion of the
> class time to discuss careers?
> The point is that it's completely  up to you.
>
> We are here to support you.
>
> There will be a more formalized communication on this going out from our
> marketing department, but I wanted make sure that this group (especially)
> had access to this information sooner, rather than later.
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
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From misswisc at aol.com  Thu Apr  9 20:30:04 2020
From: misswisc at aol.com (Kristi R-C)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:30:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
References: <1028592303.3342114.1586464204800.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1028592303.3342114.1586464204800@mail.yahoo.com>

I bought the cheapest of the three that are eligible for IA reimbursement since I'm doing this on my own.?
Poorly worded questions are par for the course. each of the 100+ sections has a 7 questions quiz, some of which have 3 parts but all are equally scored as just the 7 is driving me crazy. As is the monotone of the guy reading what's on the page in front of me.?

-----Original Message-----
From: herrick goldman via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: herrick goldman <herrick at hglightingdesign.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

Kristi do you have the one with the "place the following items in order" one item is fall arrest, and one is teach the worker about fall arrest.? And for some reason the teaching part is NOT the first most important thing.? Wtf??
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 15:51 Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

Phil is a fabulous trainer - this is a great opportunity and I hope lots of colleges will take advantage of it!?
We're watching dominoes fall in AV land, too. At one point I had a trip every month planned for a conference or teaching - now all is cancelled through August and I'm waiting for that to cancel too.?
Summerfest - the big music festival in Milwaukee that is usually over 4th of July ?- is now smack dab on top of the AWTE conference in September... reserved my housing as soon as I heard, but prices tripled overnight so some of the other board members haven't done as well.?
Plugging away on the OSHA 30 with some other list denizens... join in the "fun" if you want. I think I picked the company that has absolutely no phreaking clue how to write a quiz question. Ah well.?
Be safe y'all!?
Kristi R-C

-----Original Message-----
From: Ford Sellers via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Ford Sellers <fsellers at chauvetlighting.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 11:07 am
Subject: Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

Well then, I owe you a beverage of your choice!!

Seriously, though... We are trying to focus on what we can do to help the industry.

I'll be presenting at USITT Presents at the end of the month (Challenges and solutions for mixing different types of LED Color systems in the same rig).? I hope I'm neither too boring, nor too ignorant... Tune in to see my trainwreck.? Lol.

You may have noticed my other post (a few weeks ago) on the Virtual Classroom that we've set-up with ChamSys.
They will actually attend professor's Zoom (or whatever electronic media) classroom, and guest lecture on topics of your choice.? Plus have some customized projects and/or homework for your students.

This is a great option for folks who need to fill practicum hours with their students (*cough *cough *cough @mangank at bgsu.edu @matthew Whiton).
AND WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT!!

Sorry for the shouting... too much day-drinking.? Herrick is a bad influence.

Re-post of the ChamSys email is below:

I?ve been working with Phil Watson from ChamSys on some ways that we can help Educators.
We?re working to develop a way for College Educators (at first, maybe opening it up further, later down the road) to have custom content for their practicums, and classes.
 
Our goal is to be able to offer a personalized educational opportunity to as many schools as possible.? For Free.? This may include access to recordings, but more importantly, live lectures and interactions with experts in the field.
 
Of course, we can volunteer to guest lecture, and that is a part of this (anyone who would like me to take up an hour of your class time, just email me).? And of course, there is a ton of free ?Console Programming? training content already available from ChamSys.? 
However, this is different.? Instead of offering a bunch of pre-recorded trainings and sales-pitches, we?re interested in developing custom content for your specific classroom.

Classes might include things like discussing the philosophies behind how consoles think, so that regardless of whether you?re working with Chauvet fixtures and ChamSys Consoles, or ETC Consoles and Fixtures, your students can learn how to work efficiently. But, we also want for them to practice what they learn (to have a class/homework component).? So that we?re not only offering a live lecture, but a way to actually integrate this into existing curricula.
 
If you click on the link below, it will allow you to pick a date and time for a 20 min. personal brainstorming session with Phil and his team.? This is where you?ll discuss the sort of things you?ll need for your students, so that we can put together an appropriate lesson that is specific to your class, and students.
 
https://go.oncehub.com/BrainstormingOnlinetraining
 
Since ChamSys is a controller company, you might want to start with topics like: Programming Philosophy (Tracking vs non-tracking), Integrating Paperwork into a console (via Vectorworks, or the consoles own system), Limits and advantages of Pre-Viz, etc.? However, since Phil and his team have extensive experience in all aspects of live entertainment including, Theatre, Dance, Professional Touring, Rock & Roll, corporate A/V and Festival lighting, you may decide that you want to use a portion of the class time to discuss careers? 
The point is that it's completely? up to you.? 
 
We are here to support you.
 
There will be a more formalized communication on this going out from our marketing department, but I wanted make sure that this group (especially) had access to this information sooner, rather than later.
____________________________________________________________
For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
Stagecraft mailing list
Stagecraft at theatrical.net
http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
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From charlie.rsd at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 20:37:15 2020
From: charlie.rsd at gmail.com (Charlie Richmond)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:37:15 -0700
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <1fae3576-dd97-49cb-a18d-13481da3cecc@email.android.com>
References: <CAF5K5-W7rxPdK8wB+YBdU+VQ976A3x-BysHWDQiW9D1+tp5y=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1fae3576-dd97-49cb-a18d-13481da3cecc@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAH8n2oOtLqQEs04cMjALSmP0r2jBtHAjUW0hEALcTjJQGTrwSQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good here and overloaded with potential shows to watch as a result of the
flood of streaming options that are now inundating my inbox!!!!  Yikes!!!

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 06:26, Sam Lunetta via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Doing OK on the Uppet West Side if Manhatten.
>
> Sam Lunetta
>
> On Mar 31, 2020 12:27, Dan Sheehan via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> Personally OK (so far) here in Walpole MA.
> May show has been moved to September.
>
> --
> ...Dan Sheehan
> Fixer of things that break
> TD Walpole (MA) Footlighters
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
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> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
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From ladesigners at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 20:42:50 2020
From: ladesigners at gmail.com (Richard Niederberg)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:42:50 -0700
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <1fae3576-dd97-49cb-a18d-13481da3cecc@email.android.com>
References: <CAF5K5-W7rxPdK8wB+YBdU+VQ976A3x-BysHWDQiW9D1+tp5y=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1fae3576-dd97-49cb-a18d-13481da3cecc@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAJSxm-KTr4bdnwRyEoN44HmwFxgLpzKQy9athP5FsY_5gQGufA@mail.gmail.com>

With about 60,000 unemployed IA members and families in SoCal, we are
marginal, except there are no business for Attorneys representing them, and
not even any nonprofit performing arts organizations presenting shows for
me to give freebies to.
/s/ Richard.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 6:26 AM Sam Lunetta via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Doing OK on the Uppet West Side if Manhatten.
>
> Sam Lunetta
>
> On Mar 31, 2020 12:27, Dan Sheehan via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> Personally OK (so far) here in Walpole MA.
> May show has been moved to September.
>
> --
> ...Dan Sheehan
> Fixer of things that break
> TD Walpole (MA) Footlighters
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>


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From misswisc at aol.com  Thu Apr  9 20:51:16 2020
From: misswisc at aol.com (Kristi R-C)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 20:51:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <CAJSxm-KTr4bdnwRyEoN44HmwFxgLpzKQy9athP5FsY_5gQGufA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAF5K5-W7rxPdK8wB+YBdU+VQ976A3x-BysHWDQiW9D1+tp5y=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1fae3576-dd97-49cb-a18d-13481da3cecc@email.android.com>
	<CAJSxm-KTr4bdnwRyEoN44HmwFxgLpzKQy9athP5FsY_5gQGufA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <264671076.3378056.1586465476708@mail.yahoo.com>

Richard -
You might want to reach out to colleges/companies thinking about online shows. The copyright intricacies of that are lost on a lot of teachers. If you're so inclined, you might host a webinar on how to do that. I'd tune in!
Kristi RC


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Niederberg via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Richard Niederberg <ladesigners at gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?

With about 60,000 unemployed IA members and families in SoCal, we are marginal, except there are no business for Attorneys representing them, and not even any nonprofit performing arts organizations presenting shows for me to give freebies to./s/ Richard.?
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 6:26 AM Sam Lunetta via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

Doing OK on the Uppet West Side if Manhatten.?
Sam Lunetta
On Mar 31, 2020 12:27, Dan Sheehan via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

Personally OK (so far) here in Walpole MA.May show has been moved to September.
-- 
...Dan Sheehan
Fixer of things that breakTD Walpole (MA) Footlighters



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From ladesigners at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 20:59:02 2020
From: ladesigners at gmail.com (Richard Niederberg)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 13:59:02 -0700
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <264671076.3378056.1586465476708@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAF5K5-W7rxPdK8wB+YBdU+VQ976A3x-BysHWDQiW9D1+tp5y=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<1fae3576-dd97-49cb-a18d-13481da3cecc@email.android.com>
	<CAJSxm-KTr4bdnwRyEoN44HmwFxgLpzKQy9athP5FsY_5gQGufA@mail.gmail.com>
	<264671076.3378056.1586465476708@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJSxm-KKym0qAx0LTM=+W7XJ072wKJsLtN4LPBLP2ckWvcyqYw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Kristi,
Good Idea. I'll research it.
/s/ Richard

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 1:51 PM Kristi R-C <misswisc at aol.com> wrote:

> Richard -
>
> You might want to reach out to colleges/companies thinking about online
> shows. The copyright intricacies of that are lost on a lot of teachers. If
> you're so inclined, you might host a webinar on how to do that. I'd tune
> in!
>
> Kristi RC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Niederberg via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Cc: Richard Niederberg <ladesigners at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 3:48 pm
> Subject: Re: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
>
> With about 60,000 unemployed IA members and families in SoCal, we are
> marginal, except there are no business for Attorneys representing them, and
> not even any nonprofit performing arts organizations presenting shows for
> me to give freebies to.
> /s/ Richard.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 6:26 AM Sam Lunetta via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> Doing OK on the Uppet West Side if Manhatten.
>
> Sam Lunetta
>
> On Mar 31, 2020 12:27, Dan Sheehan via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> Personally OK (so far) here in Walpole MA.
> May show has been moved to September.
>
> --
> ...Dan Sheehan
> Fixer of things that break
> TD Walpole (MA) Footlighters
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>
>
>
> --
> /s/ Richard
> _________
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>


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From jacobturowblumberg at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 21:07:34 2020
From: jacobturowblumberg at gmail.com (Jacob Blumberg)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 17:07:34 -0400
Subject: [SML] Elastic
Message-ID: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,
Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields by the
hundreds for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160
face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting
elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or
woven that you might be able to send us?

Wishing everyone the best in these times,
Jacob
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From jgolden at gallagherstaging.com  Thu Apr  9 21:15:07 2020
From: jgolden at gallagherstaging.com (Joe Golden)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2020 14:15:07 -0700
Subject: [SML] Elastic
In-Reply-To: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5e8f9077.1c69fb81.50e92.04c8@mx.google.com>

Try cutting open bungee cords.Joe GoldenGallagher Staging657-529-3132951-264-8401Sent from my Android device. Please excuse my brevity and typos.
-------- Original message --------From: Jacob Blumberg via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Date: 4/9/20  2:07 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Cc: Jacob Blumberg <jacobturowblumberg at gmail.com> Subject: [SML] Elastic Hi Everyone,Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields?by the hundreds?for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160 face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or woven that you might be able to send us??Wishing everyone the best in these times,Jacob?
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From misswisc at aol.com  Thu Apr  9 21:21:39 2020
From: misswisc at aol.com (Kristi R-C)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 21:21:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Elastic
In-Reply-To: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1004719370.3468575.1586467299700@mail.yahoo.com>

Use bias tape. Or rip apart old underwear.?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Blumberg via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Jacob Blumberg <jacobturowblumberg at gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 4:12 pm
Subject: [SML] Elastic

Hi Everyone,Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields?by the hundreds?for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160 face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or woven that you might be able to send us??
Wishing everyone the best in these times,Jacob?____________________________________________________________
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From thetentpegfactor at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 21:37:11 2020
From: thetentpegfactor at gmail.com (Paul Wilson)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 05:37:11 +0800
Subject: [SML] Elastic
In-Reply-To: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA-yZRtWXX418A+cbY-HXX146PQQVx09vQD2Fj+dnJkwhdsD0w@mail.gmail.com>

Have you talked to the marketing/community liaison/student associations.
Get them to spread the word, our communities are our best resources.

Regards
Paul

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 5:08 AM, Jacob Blumberg via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields by the
> hundreds for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160
> face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting
> elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or
> woven that you might be able to send us?
>
> Wishing everyone the best in these times,
> Jacob
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>
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From bill at sapsis-rigging.com  Thu Apr  9 21:37:48 2020
From: bill at sapsis-rigging.com (Bill Sapsis)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 21:37:48 +0000
Subject: [SML] Elastic
In-Reply-To: <1004719370.3468575.1586467299700@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1004719370.3468575.1586467299700@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <78A4D4F6-C11A-44ED-9A7C-EE63A0D6853E@sapsis-rigging.com>

The corners from fitted sheets.
Hat tip to Carla Richters

Bill

bill at sapsis-rigging.com<mailto:bill at sapsis-rigging.com>
http://sapsis-rigging.com
+1.267.278.4561 mobile

We?ve moved!
Our new address is:
Sapsis Rigging, Inc.
870 Bunting Lane
Building A
Primos, PA  19018

Phone numbers remain the same
215-228-0888
215-228=1786  fax

Please update your records

From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of "stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Reply-To: "stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Date: Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 5:22 PM
To: "stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: "misswisc at aol.com" <misswisc at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [SML] Elastic

Use bias tape. Or rip apart old underwear.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Blumberg via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Jacob Blumberg <jacobturowblumberg at gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 4:12 pm
Subject: [SML] Elastic
Hi Everyone,
Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields by the hundreds for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160 face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or woven that you might be able to send us?

Wishing everyone the best in these times,
Jacob
____________________________________________________________
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From jacobturowblumberg at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 22:01:45 2020
From: jacobturowblumberg at gmail.com (Jacob Blumberg)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 18:01:45 -0400
Subject: [SML] Elastic
In-Reply-To: <78A4D4F6-C11A-44ED-9A7C-EE63A0D6853E@sapsis-rigging.com>
References: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1004719370.3468575.1586467299700@mail.yahoo.com>
	<78A4D4F6-C11A-44ED-9A7C-EE63A0D6853E@sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <CA+rGfJtXweGEF=9kXHxnW9UzPAu=TuDD=FeeyRD8sq9b18uOfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Unfortunately, Fitted sheet elastic is too small, elastic from underwear is
not sterile enough to send. How would you get elastic out of bungee cords?

Jacob

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:38 PM Bill Sapsis via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> The corners from fitted sheets.
>
> Hat tip to Carla Richters
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> bill at sapsis-rigging.com
>
> http://sapsis-rigging.com
>
> +1.267.278.4561 mobile
>
>
>
> We?ve moved!
>
> Our new address is:
>
> Sapsis Rigging, Inc.
>
> 870 Bunting Lane
>
> Building A
>
> Primos, PA  19018
>
>
>
> Phone numbers remain the same
>
> 215-228-0888
>
> 215-228=1786  fax
>
>
>
> Please update your records
>
>
>
> *From: *Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of "
> stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> *Reply-To: *"stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> *Date: *Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 5:22 PM
> *To: *"stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> *Cc: *"misswisc at aol.com" <misswisc at aol.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [SML] Elastic
>
>
>
> Use bias tape. Or rip apart old underwear.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacob Blumberg via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Cc: Jacob Blumberg <jacobturowblumberg at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 9, 2020 4:12 pm
> Subject: [SML] Elastic
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields by the
> hundreds for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160
> face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting
> elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or
> woven that you might be able to send us?
>
>
>
> Wishing everyone the best in these times,
>
> Jacob
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
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From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Thu Apr  9 22:38:13 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:38:13 -0700
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
Message-ID: <6ef0ff93-90b0-7c62-d522-744c62562c4f@durandinterstellar.com>

I have an old Viking DLS-200B telephone line simulator box.? This is the
box where you plug two landline phones in.? When you pick up one the
other rings and you can now talk.? Even supplies dial tone and ring-back.

Can be used for ringing phones or as a two station intercom.? This was
used to demo telecom gear at trade shows and also to test prototypes.

Free to a needy theatre, but pay for postage.

Original instruction manual included.

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru

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From bpurdy at rochester.rr.com  Thu Apr  9 23:43:21 2020
From: bpurdy at rochester.rr.com (Bruce Purdy)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 19:43:21 -0400
Subject: [SML] Elastic
In-Reply-To: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B79F7649-8877-4934-B2B3-B7F1E28F6272@rochester.rr.com>

My daughter is sewing countless masks for hospitals and nursing homes. She?s faced the same ?Elastic shortage.? I?ve searched a lot of places for her to no avail, but then she found a Mennonite run fabric store that had LOTS of elastic on spools. It?s the kind of out-of-the-way place that most of the public doesn?t go. If you have such a place in your area, you might try there.

Bruce
-----
Bruce Purdy
Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
http://brucepurdy.com


> On 9Apr, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Jacob Blumberg via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields by the hundreds for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160 face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or woven that you might be able to send us? 
> 
> Wishing everyone the best in these times,
> Jacob 
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net







From mckenney.sarah at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 23:49:12 2020
From: mckenney.sarah at gmail.com (Sarah McKenney)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:49:12 -0700
Subject: [SML] Elastic
In-Reply-To: <B79F7649-8877-4934-B2B3-B7F1E28F6272@rochester.rr.com>
References: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B79F7649-8877-4934-B2B3-B7F1E28F6272@rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAG8B+2gqjOR-+in-1F1QqQYjn4cgv+G+3_uxNRFb7ZZUdjp1Wg@mail.gmail.com>

Another option is to go for tie on masks and make your own bias tape. Takes
awhile but it just uses more fabric if you have a lot of that on hand.
There are many YouTube tutorials on how to do it -- just a lot of folding
and ironing.

~Sarah McKenney
Lighting Technician
Oregon Shakespeare Festival

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 4:43 PM Bruce Purdy via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> My daughter is sewing countless masks for hospitals and nursing homes.
> She?s faced the same ?Elastic shortage.? I?ve searched a lot of places for
> her to no avail, but then she found a Mennonite run fabric store that had
> LOTS of elastic on spools. It?s the kind of out-of-the-way place that most
> of the public doesn?t go. If you have such a place in your area, you might
> try there.
>
> Bruce
> -----
> Bruce Purdy
> Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
> http://brucepurdy.com
>
>
> > On 9Apr, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Jacob Blumberg via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> > Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields by the
> hundreds for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160
> face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting
> elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or
> woven that you might be able to send us?
> >
> > Wishing everyone the best in these times,
> > Jacob
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > Stagecraft mailing list
> > Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> > http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>
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From dave.vick at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 01:09:11 2020
From: dave.vick at gmail.com (Dave Vick)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 21:09:11 -0400
Subject: [SML] Is everyone still ok?
In-Reply-To: <1028592303.3342114.1586464204800@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1028592303.3342114.1586464204800.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
	<1028592303.3342114.1586464204800@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEy8B2nic8+vZypBc5uw1QZTqeWXfKjvNKvE5+-ZocHK_ZN9ZQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:30 PM Kristi R-C via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Poorly worded questions are par for the course.

AHA! Another WPR listener, I see...

-- 
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
(persons who are sticklers for the truth, &c...)



From billconnerastc at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 11:03:01 2020
From: billconnerastc at gmail.com (Bill Conner)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 07:03:01 -0400
Subject: [SML] Elastic
In-Reply-To: <CAG8B+2gqjOR-+in-1F1QqQYjn4cgv+G+3_uxNRFb7ZZUdjp1Wg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B79F7649-8877-4934-B2B3-B7F1E28F6272@rochester.rr.com>
	<CAG8B+2gqjOR-+in-1F1QqQYjn4cgv+G+3_uxNRFb7ZZUdjp1Wg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHtCQ9QHS5zSN7XusPX9XPSmRc8XmwA0sfoCqfCpHcYNyMBOjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Check camping supply places, even tent makers. I bought by the 250' spool
to repair scout troop tent poles. it's about an 1/8" diameter cord.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 7:49 PM Sarah McKenney via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Another option is to go for tie on masks and make your own bias tape.
> Takes awhile but it just uses more fabric if you have a lot of that on
> hand. There are many YouTube tutorials on how to do it -- just a lot of
> folding and ironing.
>
> ~Sarah McKenney
> Lighting Technician
> Oregon Shakespeare Festival
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 4:43 PM Bruce Purdy via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>> My daughter is sewing countless masks for hospitals and nursing homes.
>> She?s faced the same ?Elastic shortage.? I?ve searched a lot of places for
>> her to no avail, but then she found a Mennonite run fabric store that had
>> LOTS of elastic on spools. It?s the kind of out-of-the-way place that most
>> of the public doesn?t go. If you have such a place in your area, you might
>> try there.
>>
>> Bruce
>> -----
>> Bruce Purdy
>> Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
>> http://brucepurdy.com
>>
>>
>> > On 9Apr, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Jacob Blumberg via Stagecraft <
>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> > Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields by the
>> hundreds for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160
>> face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting
>> elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or
>> woven that you might be able to send us?
>> >
>> > Wishing everyone the best in these times,
>> > Jacob
>> > ____________________________________________________________
>> > For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> > Stagecraft mailing list
>> > Stagecraft at theatrical.net
>> > http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> Stagecraft mailing list
>> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
>> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
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From Stephen.Rees at fredonia.edu  Fri Apr 10 11:32:30 2020
From: Stephen.Rees at fredonia.edu (Stephen Rees)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 07:32:30 -0400
Subject: [SML] Elastic
In-Reply-To: <CAHtCQ9QHS5zSN7XusPX9XPSmRc8XmwA0sfoCqfCpHcYNyMBOjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+rGfJusT5C_byUSKgfHXFi+wpw_+eCx0b8BfTMQAbft22TvXA@mail.gmail.com>
	<B79F7649-8877-4934-B2B3-B7F1E28F6272@rochester.rr.com>
	<CAG8B+2gqjOR-+in-1F1QqQYjn4cgv+G+3_uxNRFb7ZZUdjp1Wg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAHtCQ9QHS5zSN7XusPX9XPSmRc8XmwA0sfoCqfCpHcYNyMBOjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMdFUXVqikWCP-QsPqzLPh6OcaSjnFc+F0RF6_n1qcC_TobA3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Good Lord these theatre folk are clever!! Good on us, eh?
Steve
Stephen E. Rees, Treasurer - Revitalize Dunkirk
Professor Emeritus of Theatre
CCE-CC Master Gardener Volunteer
716.366.0505 Home
716.680.1565 Mobile



On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:03 AM Bill Conner via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Check camping supply places, even tent makers. I bought by the 250' spool
> to repair scout troop tent poles. it's about an 1/8" diameter cord.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 7:49 PM Sarah McKenney via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>> Another option is to go for tie on masks and make your own bias tape.
>> Takes awhile but it just uses more fabric if you have a lot of that on
>> hand. There are many YouTube tutorials on how to do it -- just a lot of
>> folding and ironing.
>>
>> ~Sarah McKenney
>> Lighting Technician
>> Oregon Shakespeare Festival
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 4:43 PM Bruce Purdy via Stagecraft <
>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My daughter is sewing countless masks for hospitals and nursing homes.
>>> She?s faced the same ?Elastic shortage.? I?ve searched a lot of places for
>>> her to no avail, but then she found a Mennonite run fabric store that had
>>> LOTS of elastic on spools. It?s the kind of out-of-the-way place that most
>>> of the public doesn?t go. If you have such a place in your area, you might
>>> try there.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> -----
>>> Bruce Purdy
>>> Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
>>> http://brucepurdy.com
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 9Apr, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Jacob Blumberg via Stagecraft <
>>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Everyone,
>>> > Me and a friend from college are 3D printing face shields by the
>>> hundreds for hospitals for free. What kills us both is that we have 160
>>> face shields on hand and ready to go but we are having trouble getting
>>> elastic. Does anyone out there have 1/2" to 3/4" buttonhole, braided, or
>>> woven that you might be able to send us?
>>> >
>>> > Wishing everyone the best in these times,
>>> > Jacob
>>> > ____________________________________________________________
>>> > For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>>> > Stagecraft mailing list
>>> > Stagecraft at theatrical.net
>>> > http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>>> Stagecraft mailing list
>>> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
>>> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> Stagecraft mailing list
>> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
>> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
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From will at thebase.com  Fri Apr 10 19:46:12 2020
From: will at thebase.com (William Knapp)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 15:46:12 -0400
Subject: [SML] DIY masks
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1586545204.24424.stagecraft_theatrical.net@theatrical.net>
References: <mailman.1.1586545204.24424.stagecraft_theatrical.net@theatrical.net>
Message-ID: <CAP0Vx0NYjmtTuwv+2BQisjLbQ_HNqg9+eWbTo6VbNy_DA59-wg@mail.gmail.com>

I'd like to advocate for disposable respiratory face coverings. Cotton
masks are definitely better than nothing. But if they have done their job
they are covered with viruses when we get home. Even if they have a filter
slot, the outside is what may be contaminated so they must be washed with
each wearing religiously.

Cheap, one use masks can be disposed of before entering the home. And they
can be changed while you're out if you feel you've gotten in a potentially
contaminated situation.

A garment company in LA, that is now sewing masks, did tests on numerous
fabrics with a specialized machine (a TSI PortaCount Pro); shop towels
tested to provide the best filtration.

https://suayla.com/pages/suay-community-mask-coalition

This company is sewing "reusable" masks. They admit that cleaning reduces
their longevity. I believe that easy to make, cheap, single use masks are a
better choice.

In January there were widespread shortages of masks in Hong Kong. The
University of Hong Kong set up a task force to create a DIY mask design.
The following link is the research on that project which yielded a design
they estimated to be 90% as effective as a surgical mask.

https://www.consumer.org.hk/ws_en/news/2020/covid-19-diymasks

I have made some adjustments to the fit of the mask and substituted shop
towels for kitchen paper towels. I believe it provides excellent fit and
filtration; better than the original design.

That, combined with its no-sewing, no-tech, easy, cheap fabrication make it
a superior choice to a sewn cotton mask. Its cost (~20? each) means a new
one can be used each time you need one.

Instructions: https://youtu.be/l-2ElKi1F6E

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And certainly don't let
social positioning anxiety lead to not using anything because you don't
have what the rich kids do.

-- 
Will Knapp
will at thebase.com
+1 212 475 3110
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From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Fri Apr 10 20:05:28 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:05:28 -0700
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <6ef0ff93-90b0-7c62-d522-744c62562c4f@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <6ef0ff93-90b0-7c62-d522-744c62562c4f@durandinterstellar.com>
Message-ID: <fdcf018b-5cdd-8459-9651-6608b32964cd@durandinterstellar.com>

It's been claimed.

On 4/9/20 3:38 PM, Jerry Durand wrote:
> I have an old Viking DLS-200B telephone line simulator box.? This is
> the box where you plug two landline phones in.? When you pick up one
> the other rings and you can now talk.? Even supplies dial tone and
> ring-back.
>
> Can be used for ringing phones or as a two station intercom.? This was
> used to demo telecom gear at trade shows and also to test prototypes.
>
> Free to a needy theatre, but pay for postage.
>
> Original instruction manual included.
> -- 
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
> www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru
>

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru

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From bpurdy at rochester.rr.com  Fri Apr 10 20:15:20 2020
From: bpurdy at rochester.rr.com (bpurdy at rochester.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 20:15:20 +0000
Subject: [SML] DIY masks
Message-ID: <e8a75221c08d1809cd3fc0965ff3723c13bf37ce@webmail>

" Cotton masks are definitely better than nothing. But if they have
done their job they are covered with viruses when we get home."
 Actually, the purpose of wearing such fabric masks is NOT to protect
the wearer, but rather to protect OTHERS in the event that the wearer
might unwittingly be an asymptomatic carrier. Therefore being covered
in viruses is not a measure of having done their job.
Bruce
-----
Bruce Purdy
Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
http://brucepurdy.com [1]

	-----------------------------------------From: "William Knapp via
Stagecraft" 
To: "Stagecraft"
Cc: "William Knapp"
Sent: Friday April 10 2020 3:47:10PM
Subject: [SML] DIY masks

I'd like to advocate for disposable respiratory face coverings. Cotton
masks are definitely better than nothing. But if they have done their
job they are covered with viruses when we get home. Even if they have
a filter slot, the outside is what may be contaminated so they must be
washed with each wearing religiously.
Cheap, one use masks can be disposed of before entering the home. And
they can be changed while you're out if you feel you've gotten in a
potentially contaminated situation. 
A garment company in LA, that is now sewing masks, did tests on
numerous fabrics with a specialized machine (a TSI PortaCount Pro);
shop towels tested to provide the best filtration.
 [2]https://suayla.com/pages/suay-community-mask-coalition [3]
This company is sewing "reusable" masks. They admit that cleaning
reduces their longevity. I believe that easy to make, cheap, single
use masks are a better choice.
In January there were widespread shortages of masks in Hong Kong. The
University of Hong Kong set up a task force to create a DIY mask
design. The following link is the research on that project which
yielded a design they estimated to be 90% as effective as a surgical
mask. 
 [4]https://www.consumer.org.hk/ws_en/news/2020/covid-19-diymasks [5]

I have made some adjustments to the fit of the mask and substituted
shop towels for kitchen paper towels. I believe it provides excellent
fit and filtration; better than the original design. 
That, combined with its no-sewing, no-tech, easy, cheap fabrication
make it a superior choice to a sewn cotton mask. Its cost (~20? each)
means a new one can be used each time you need one. 
Instructions:  [6]https://youtu.be/l-2ElKi1F6E [7]
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And certainly don't
let social positioning anxiety lead to not using anything because you
don't have what the rich kids do.
-- 
Will Knappwill at thebase.com [8]+1 212 475 3110

 

Links:
------
[1] http://brucepurdy.com/
[2] https://suayla.com/pages/suay-community-mask-coalition
[3] https://suayla.com/pages/suay-community-mask-coalition
[4] https://www.consumer.org.hk/ws_en/news/2020/covid-19-diymasks
[5] https://www.consumer.org.hk/ws_en/news/2020/covid-19-diymasks
[6] https://youtu.be/l-2ElKi1F6E
[7] https://youtu.be/l-2ElKi1F6E
[8] mailto:will at thebase.com

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From niglew at googlemail.com  Fri Apr 10 20:15:54 2020
From: niglew at googlemail.com (Nigel Worsley)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 21:15:54 +0100
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <fdcf018b-5cdd-8459-9651-6608b32964cd@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <6ef0ff93-90b0-7c62-d522-744c62562c4f@durandinterstellar.com>
	<fdcf018b-5cdd-8459-9651-6608b32964cd@durandinterstellar.com>
Message-ID: <CAEq1Cr7jjPxmAnYr-m82vi8PFE5P28nbsmHiEENEU1yXeQRxyQ@mail.gmail.com>

This reminds me, one of my lockdown projects is to design a phone
ringer for stage use (the day job is electronics design). What
features do people feel are missing from the existing affordable
solutions?

Already on the list is the ability to provide the right tones and
ringing frequencies for worldwide use and a USB port so it can be
triggered by show control software etc.

Nigel Worsley



From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Fri Apr 10 20:18:24 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:18:24 -0700
Subject: [SML] DIY masks
In-Reply-To: <e8a75221c08d1809cd3fc0965ff3723c13bf37ce@webmail>
References: <e8a75221c08d1809cd3fc0965ff3723c13bf37ce@webmail>
Message-ID: <58497be5-9c5e-65ef-e4f8-abbf75e53327@durandinterstellar.com>

Also note that masks with valves like my P100 welding mask protect the
wearer but do nothing for other people as the valve exhausts with no
filtering at all.?

Can't cloth masks be washed/sanitized?? We trust bed sheets in hotel
rooms no matter what the previous guest did to them.

On 4/10/20 1:15 PM, Bruce Purdy via Stagecraft wrote:
> "?Cotton masks are definitely better than nothing. But if they have
> done their?job they are covered with viruses?when we get home."
>
> ? ? ? Actually, the purpose of wearing such fabric masks is NOT to
> protect the wearer, but rather to protect OTHERS in the event that the
> wearer might unwittingly be an asymptomatic carrier. Therefore being
> covered in viruses is not a measure of having done their job.
>
> Bruce
> -----
> Bruce Purdy
> Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
> http://brucepurdy.com <http://brucepurdy.com/>

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru

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From litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 20:22:49 2020
From: litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com (Stephen Litterst)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:22:49 -0400
Subject: [SML] DIY masks
In-Reply-To: <e8a75221c08d1809cd3fc0965ff3723c13bf37ce@webmail>
References: <e8a75221c08d1809cd3fc0965ff3723c13bf37ce@webmail>
Message-ID: <3b0eda49-ba0f-e135-a89d-6a0819a9cace@gmail.com>

On 4/10/20 4:15 PM, Bruce Purdy via Stagecraft wrote:
> "?Cotton masks are definitely better than nothing. But if they have done 
> their?job they are covered with viruses?when we get home."
> 
>  ? ? ? Actually, the purpose of wearing such fabric masks is NOT to 
> protect the wearer, but rather to protect OTHERS in the event that the 
> wearer might unwittingly be an asymptomatic carrier. Therefore being 
> covered in viruses is not a measure of having done their job.

He never said which side of the mask would be covered in viruses. :D

Steve L
(Sorry for the nitpick, it's been a long week and I'm punchy.)


-- 
Stephen Litterst            Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst at udel.edu           Mitchell Hall
302/831-0601                University of Delaware




From sdwheaton at fuse.net  Fri Apr 10 20:33:27 2020
From: sdwheaton at fuse.net (sdwheaton)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:33:27 -0400
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
Message-ID: <hpnnf5q89d7a8x65dke7050f.1586550127324@email.android.com>

A design for one appeared in Theatre Crafts, April 1989 issue by the list's very own Karl Ruling.??One feature he incorporated was to allow the ring cadence to be adjusted for a slow, ominous ring, or a faster, more urgent ring cadence.I always meant to build one.Stuart?Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device-------- Original message --------From: Nigel Worsley via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Date: 4/10/2020  4:15 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Cc: Nigel Worsley <niglew at googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [SML] Telephone line simulator This reminds me, one of my lockdown projects is to design a phoneringer for stage use (the day job is electronics design). Whatfeatures do people feel are missing from the existing affordablesolutions?Already on the list is the ability to provide the right tones andringing frequencies for worldwide use and a USB port so it can betriggered by show control software etc.Nigel Worsley____________________________________________________________For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>Stagecraft mailing listStagecraft at theatrical.nethttp://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
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From niglew at googlemail.com  Fri Apr 10 20:36:39 2020
From: niglew at googlemail.com (Nigel Worsley)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 21:36:39 +0100
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <hpnnf5q89d7a8x65dke7050f.1586550127324@email.android.com>
References: <hpnnf5q89d7a8x65dke7050f.1586550127324@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CAEq1Cr4AtEhm77a4=sU=xCnYVXws=fDzRMCRKip0YMtAh_6RnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 21:33, sdwheaton <sdwheaton at fuse.net> wrote:
> A design for one appeared in Theatre Crafts, April 1989 issue by the list's very own Karl Ruling.
> One feature he incorporated was to allow the ring cadence to be adjusted for a slow, ominous ring, or a faster, more urgent ring cadence.

User programmable ring cadences is already on the list :)

Nigel Worsley



From taco at peak.org  Fri Apr 10 20:47:35 2020
From: taco at peak.org (taco at peak.org)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:47:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [SML] [ADV] Re:  Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <CAEq1Cr4AtEhm77a4=sU=xCnYVXws=fDzRMCRKip0YMtAh_6RnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <hpnnf5q89d7a8x65dke7050f.1586550127324@email.android.com>
	<CAEq1Cr4AtEhm77a4=sU=xCnYVXws=fDzRMCRKip0YMtAh_6RnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <150316101.90146023.1586551655437.JavaMail.zimbra@peak.org>

Well, for us little guys down in the low-budget trenches, there has never been an affordable unit, in my opinion. We were lucky enough to have a savvy volunteer rebuild a phone company unit from the 1950s, and we can plug a phone into that.  No frills, no options.

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Nigel Worsley via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: sdwheaton <sdwheaton at fuse.net>
Cc: Nigel Worsley <niglew at googlemail.com>, Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:36:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ADV] Re: [SML] Telephone line simulator

On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 21:33, sdwheaton <sdwheaton at fuse.net> wrote:
> A design for one appeared in Theatre Crafts, April 1989 issue by the list's very own Karl Ruling.
> One feature he incorporated was to allow the ring cadence to be adjusted for a slow, ominous ring, or a faster, more urgent ring cadence.

User programmable ring cadences is already on the list :)

Nigel Worsley

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From niglew at googlemail.com  Fri Apr 10 20:54:30 2020
From: niglew at googlemail.com (Nigel Worsley)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 21:54:30 +0100
Subject: [SML] [ADV] Re: Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <150316101.90146023.1586551655437.JavaMail.zimbra@peak.org>
References: <hpnnf5q89d7a8x65dke7050f.1586550127324@email.android.com>
	<CAEq1Cr4AtEhm77a4=sU=xCnYVXws=fDzRMCRKip0YMtAh_6RnQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<150316101.90146023.1586551655437.JavaMail.zimbra@peak.org>
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 21:47, Don Taco via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> Well, for us little guys down in the low-budget trenches, there has never been an affordable unit, in my opinion.

My theatre is also rather low budget, which is why I am looking at
knocking up something instead of us buying expensive and mediocre
commercial products.

Nigel Worsley



From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Fri Apr 10 20:57:22 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:57:22 -0700
Subject: [SML] [ADV] Re: Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <150316101.90146023.1586551655437.JavaMail.zimbra@peak.org>
References: <hpnnf5q89d7a8x65dke7050f.1586550127324@email.android.com>
	<CAEq1Cr4AtEhm77a4=sU=xCnYVXws=fDzRMCRKip0YMtAh_6RnQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<150316101.90146023.1586551655437.JavaMail.zimbra@peak.org>
Message-ID: <602ae2fc-3071-85ba-2e9e-794aec096bd3@durandinterstellar.com>

Shouldn't be that hard to do, I designed some POTS phone line interfaces
WAY back in the 80s that were pretty simple.? If you want nice clean
sine wave ringing that's a little harder, but with modern Arduous
compatible boards being cheap it shouldn't be too hard.

It used to be you could buy ready to go central office telephone line
interface modules pretty cheaply but I have no idea if you can still buy
them.? I do have a PAPER copy of the infamous "BOC Notes on the LEC
Networks" from Bell if anyone would like any info from there.*

* I used to be chief hardware engineer for a company making central
office stuff and also co-founded a computer voice over POTS company.?
This was back when dinosaurs still used tin cans with strings.

On 4/10/20 1:47 PM, Don Taco via Stagecraft wrote:
> Well, for us little guys down in the low-budget trenches, there has never been an affordable unit, in my opinion. We were lucky enough to have a savvy volunteer rebuild a phone company unit from the 1950s, and we can plug a phone into that.  No frills, no options.
>
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nigel Worsley via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> To: sdwheaton <sdwheaton at fuse.net>
> Cc: Nigel Worsley <niglew at googlemail.com>, Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> Sent: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:36:39 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [ADV] Re: [SML] Telephone line simulator
>
> On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 21:33, sdwheaton <sdwheaton at fuse.net> wrote:
>> A design for one appeared in Theatre Crafts, April 1989 issue by the list's very own Karl Ruling.
>> One feature he incorporated was to allow the ring cadence to be adjusted for a slow, ominous ring, or a faster, more urgent ring cadence.
> User programmable ring cadences is already on the list :)
>
> Nigel Worsley
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>
>
>
>
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From hobbit at avian.org  Fri Apr 10 21:29:10 2020
From: hobbit at avian.org (*Hobbit*)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:29:10 -0500
Subject: [SML] DIY masks
In-Reply-To: <CAP0Vx0NYjmtTuwv+2BQisjLbQ_HNqg9+eWbTo6VbNy_DA59-wg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1586545204.24424.stagecraft_theatrical.net@theatrical.net>
	<CAP0Vx0NYjmtTuwv+2BQisjLbQ_HNqg9+eWbTo6VbNy_DA59-wg@mail.gmail.com>
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Soak them in alcohol solution.  I keep about a half-inch of Everclear cut
with a little water [to about 80%] in a plastic food container with a tight
lid, and I can easily soak a mask in there when I come back from those
hazardous hunter-gatherer missions.  Wring out, let dry, ready to rock agin.
I also use the mix for wipedowns of various things, such as food packaging.
Generic rubbing alcohol [usually about 71%] should work too, if you can
find any.  It took people a long time to clue in about Everclear, and it's
got ... other uses as well.

_H*



From dave.vick at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 05:33:03 2020
From: dave.vick at gmail.com (Dave Vick)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 01:33:03 -0400
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <CAEq1Cr7jjPxmAnYr-m82vi8PFE5P28nbsmHiEENEU1yXeQRxyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ef0ff93-90b0-7c62-d522-744c62562c4f@durandinterstellar.com>
	<fdcf018b-5cdd-8459-9651-6608b32964cd@durandinterstellar.com>
	<CAEq1Cr7jjPxmAnYr-m82vi8PFE5P28nbsmHiEENEU1yXeQRxyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEy8B2mBD3ZV4P9Yw6m=4AbXp=U7pyycS=tnFXx4r+OT_8BH-g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:16 PM Nigel Worsley via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Already on the list is the ability to provide the right tones and
> ringing frequencies for worldwide use and a USB port so it can be
> triggered by show control software etc.


Y'might consider making that a MIDI input rather than USB...
Or MIDI throughput?

-- 
Dave Vick
517-749-3859
Yeah; *that* guy...



From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Sat Apr 11 05:57:45 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 22:57:45 -0700
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <CAEy8B2mBD3ZV4P9Yw6m=4AbXp=U7pyycS=tnFXx4r+OT_8BH-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ef0ff93-90b0-7c62-d522-744c62562c4f@durandinterstellar.com>
	<fdcf018b-5cdd-8459-9651-6608b32964cd@durandinterstellar.com>
	<CAEq1Cr7jjPxmAnYr-m82vi8PFE5P28nbsmHiEENEU1yXeQRxyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEy8B2mBD3ZV4P9Yw6m=4AbXp=U7pyycS=tnFXx4r+OT_8BH-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a948cb1-f8b6-47cf-87bf-723df4aac61f@durandinterstellar.com>

For the low of budget people, if you just need to generate ring you can do so with bits you might have laying around.

You'll need:
An audio source for 20Hz sine wave, pulsed in whatever cadence you want.

An audio amplifier, I used a Radio Shack PA amplifier for one setup.? Doesn't need to be quality, just function.

If the amplifier has 70 volt line out, you can skip the transformer in the next line.

An 8 ohm to 70 volt PA transformer.

A blocking capacitor, steal a RUN capacitor from an induction motor you're not using.

The capacitor isn't strictly needed, but does limit current.

Circuit is audio source > amplifier > 8-transformer-70 > capacitor in series with one lead > telephone.

Be sure and cut the audio when the actor picks up, you don't want to blast his ear with the ring signal.? Maybe remove the speaker from the phone.

Experiment to find what works well with your phone and gear.



?---
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408 356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.DurandInterstellar.ru?

On Apr 10, 2020, 22:33, at 22:33, Dave Vick via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 4:16 PM Nigel Worsley via Stagecraft
><stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>> Already on the list is the ability to provide the right tones and
>> ringing frequencies for worldwide use and a USB port so it can be
>> triggered by show control software etc.
>
>
>Y'might consider making that a MIDI input rather than USB...
>Or MIDI throughput?
>
>-- 
>Dave Vick
>517-749-3859
>Yeah; *that* guy...
>
>____________________________________________________________
>For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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From dsheehan.sml at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 11:22:07 2020
From: dsheehan.sml at gmail.com (Dan Sheehan)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:22:07 -0400
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <4a948cb1-f8b6-47cf-87bf-723df4aac61f@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <6ef0ff93-90b0-7c62-d522-744c62562c4f@durandinterstellar.com>
	<fdcf018b-5cdd-8459-9651-6608b32964cd@durandinterstellar.com>
	<CAEq1Cr7jjPxmAnYr-m82vi8PFE5P28nbsmHiEENEU1yXeQRxyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEy8B2mBD3ZV4P9Yw6m=4AbXp=U7pyycS=tnFXx4r+OT_8BH-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a948cb1-f8b6-47cf-87bf-723df4aac61f@durandinterstellar.com>
Message-ID: <CAF5K5-WpAGVSryDpJz1XjE87Qo5nyf4y2iVcmybTBWabRBG79g@mail.gmail.com>

thanks Jerry

* doorbell transformer would probably work,
or any small thing (wall wart?) with a very roughly 1:10 ratio (ie made for
120V to ~12V AC),
 provided the 20Hz source (amp) can drive the low end of it

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 1:58 AM Jerry Durand via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> For the low of budget people, if you just need to generate ring you can do
> so with bits you might have laying around.
>
> You'll need:
> An audio source for 20Hz sine wave, pulsed in whatever cadence you want.
>
> An audio amplifier, I used a Radio Shack PA amplifier for one setup.
> Doesn't need to be quality, just function.
>
> If the amplifier has 70 volt line out, you can skip the transformer in the
> next line.
>
> * >An 8 ohm to 70 volt PA transformer. <*
>
> A blocking capacitor, steal a RUN capacitor from an induction motor you're
> not using.
>
> The capacitor isn't strictly needed, but does limit current.
>
> Circuit is audio source > amplifier > 8-transformer-70 > capacitor in
> series with one lead > telephone.
>
> Be sure and cut the audio when the actor picks up, you don't want to blast
> his ear with the ring signal.  Maybe remove the speaker from the phone.
>
> Experiment to find what works well with your phone and gear.
>
>
>
> ---
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408 356-3886
> <http://www.DurandInterstellar.com>www.DurandInterstellar.com &
> <http://www.DurandInterstellar.ru>www.DurandInterstellar.ru
>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
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> Stagecraft mailing list
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From steven at simplycircus.com  Sat Apr 11 11:43:25 2020
From: steven at simplycircus.com (Steven Santos)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:43:25 -0400
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <CAF5K5-WpAGVSryDpJz1XjE87Qo5nyf4y2iVcmybTBWabRBG79g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ef0ff93-90b0-7c62-d522-744c62562c4f@durandinterstellar.com>
	<fdcf018b-5cdd-8459-9651-6608b32964cd@durandinterstellar.com>
	<CAEq1Cr7jjPxmAnYr-m82vi8PFE5P28nbsmHiEENEU1yXeQRxyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEy8B2mBD3ZV4P9Yw6m=4AbXp=U7pyycS=tnFXx4r+OT_8BH-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a948cb1-f8b6-47cf-87bf-723df4aac61f@durandinterstellar.com>
	<CAF5K5-WpAGVSryDpJz1XjE87Qo5nyf4y2iVcmybTBWabRBG79g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPr2X+8i8fzRL2=az7s-xeY91mT5rnrKppGQZ6_m7D0-bnsW-w@mail.gmail.com>

With  Digium cards on ebay for $30, wouldn't the easy answer be an old box
with a Digium card and a copy of Asterisk?

IIRC, the ring is configurable within  Asterisk and it gives you a lot of
scripting options.  I am sure a DMX trigger could be hacked.

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 7:22 AM Dan Sheehan via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> thanks Jerry
>
> * doorbell transformer would probably work,
> or any small thing (wall wart?) with a very roughly 1:10 ratio (ie made
> for 120V to ~12V AC),
>  provided the 20Hz source (amp) can drive the low end of it
>
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 1:58 AM Jerry Durand via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>> For the low of budget people, if you just need to generate ring you can
>> do so with bits you might have laying around.
>>
>> You'll need:
>> An audio source for 20Hz sine wave, pulsed in whatever cadence you want.
>>
>> An audio amplifier, I used a Radio Shack PA amplifier for one setup.
>> Doesn't need to be quality, just function.
>>
>> If the amplifier has 70 volt line out, you can skip the transformer in
>> the next line.
>>
>> * >An 8 ohm to 70 volt PA transformer. <*
>>
>> A blocking capacitor, steal a RUN capacitor from an induction motor
>> you're not using.
>>
>> The capacitor isn't strictly needed, but does limit current.
>>
>> Circuit is audio source > amplifier > 8-transformer-70 > capacitor in
>> series with one lead > telephone.
>>
>> Be sure and cut the audio when the actor picks up, you don't want to
>> blast his ear with the ring signal.  Maybe remove the speaker from the
>> phone.
>>
>> Experiment to find what works well with your phone and gear.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408 356-3886
>> <http://www.DurandInterstellar.com>www.DurandInterstellar.com &
>> <http://www.DurandInterstellar.ru>www.DurandInterstellar.ru
>>
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> Stagecraft mailing list
>> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
>> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>>
>
>
> --
> ...Dan Sheehan
> Fixer of things that break
> TD Walpole (MA) Footlighters
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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From bpurdy at rochester.rr.com  Sat Apr 11 18:29:08 2020
From: bpurdy at rochester.rr.com (Bruce Purdy)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:29:08 -0400
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
In-Reply-To: <4a948cb1-f8b6-47cf-87bf-723df4aac61f@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <6ef0ff93-90b0-7c62-d522-744c62562c4f@durandinterstellar.com>
	<fdcf018b-5cdd-8459-9651-6608b32964cd@durandinterstellar.com>
	<CAEq1Cr7jjPxmAnYr-m82vi8PFE5P28nbsmHiEENEU1yXeQRxyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEy8B2mBD3ZV4P9Yw6m=4AbXp=U7pyycS=tnFXx4r+OT_8BH-g@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a948cb1-f8b6-47cf-87bf-723df4aac61f@durandinterstellar.com>
Message-ID: <5CA72276-4499-4452-B818-59A815C5ADC7@rochester.rr.com>

I THOUGHT I had something along these lines in my files - I found it:

https://www.chsounddesign.com/ringmaster.php

Bruce
-----
Bruce Purdy
Central New York Magic Theatre Co.
http://brucepurdy.com

> On 11Apr, 2020, at 1:57 AM, Jerry Durand via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> 
> For the low of budget people, if you just need to generate ring you can do so with bits you might have laying around.
> 
> You'll need:
> An audio source for 20Hz sine wave, pulsed in whatever cadence you want.
> 
> An audio amplifier, I used a Radio Shack PA amplifier for one setup.  Doesn't need to be quality, just function.
> 
> If the amplifier has 70 volt line out, you can skip the transformer in the next line.
> 
> An 8 ohm to 70 volt PA transformer.
> 
> A blocking capacitor, steal a RUN capacitor from an induction motor you're not using.
> 
> The capacitor isn't strictly needed, but does limit current.
> 
> Circuit is audio source > amplifier > 8-transformer-70 > capacitor in series with one lead > telephone.
> 
> Be sure and cut the audio when the actor picks up, you don't want to blast his ear with the ring signal.  Maybe remove the speaker from the phone.
> 
> Experiment to find what works well with your phone and gear.
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408 356-3886
>  <http://www.durandinterstellar.com/>www.DurandInterstellar.com <http://www.durandinterstellar.com/> &  <http://www.durandinterstellar.ru/>www.DurandInterstellar.ru <http://www.durandinterstellar.ru/>
> 
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
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> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net





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From misswisc at aol.com  Sat Apr 11 21:20:48 2020
From: misswisc at aol.com (Kristi R-C)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:20:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
References: <1057716795.3926116.1586640048267.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1057716795.3926116.1586640048267@mail.yahoo.com>

My dad made one for a school play when I was in HS that I've used dozens of times. Simple hand crank to generate voltage to trigger the ringer. Old Ma Bell phone circa 1960 on the other end.?
Last time I used it was for a performance of Bugsy Malone I directed when I was still teaching. When I called for the cue, nothing happened. Called again - still nothing. ASM told me "He's turning the handle, but the wire's broken off!" I slid open the booth window from the back of the house and loudly yelled "Brrrrrring! ?Brrrrrring!" ?Audience laughed, 8th grade actor took his cue and the show went on.
God I miss those times...?
Kristi R-C


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Durand via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Jerry Durand <jdurand at durandinterstellar.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 11, 2020 1:03 am
Subject: Re: [SML] Telephone line simulator

For the low of budget people, if you just need to generate ring you can do so with bits you might have laying around.

You'll need:
An audio source for 20Hz sine wave, pulsed in whatever cadence you want.

An audio amplifier, I used a Radio Shack PA amplifier for one setup.? Doesn't need to be quality, just function.

If the amplifier has 70 volt line out, you can skip the transformer in the next line.

An 8 ohm to 70 volt PA transformer.

A blocking capacitor, steal a RUN capacitor from an induction motor you're not using.

The capacitor isn't strictly needed, but does limit current.

Circuit is audio source > amplifier > 8-transformer-70 > capacitor in series with one lead > telephone.

Be sure and cut the audio when the actor picks up, you don't want to blast his ear with the ring signal.? Maybe remove the speaker from the phone.

Experiment to find what works well with your phone and gear.



---
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408 356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.DurandInterstellar.ru


____________________________________________________________
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From george at georgedavidson.ca  Sun Apr 12 04:09:56 2020
From: george at georgedavidson.ca (George Davidson)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:09:56 -0700
Subject: [SML] Telephone line simulator
Message-ID: <CAGyhEiyji7WX+HJ7JFAPp4LtS7tDz3w88CZoFu78NZNH5Z4rJg@mail.gmail.com>

I made a ringer using a Arduino and a PowerDSine PCR chip module thing, it
was pretty simple and worked well, PIR sensor triggered the ringer and when
you picked up it played one of 5 messages

the only issue with the module is it only seems to be stocked in Israel and
takes 2-3 weeks to arrive, other than that, was very simple and reliable

i would prefer DMX over midi or USB for remote triggering, maybe a wifi
module with SACN or artnet

George
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From jon at lagerquist.com  Wed Apr 15 19:25:56 2020
From: jon at lagerquist.com (Jon Lagerquist)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 12:25:56 -0700
Subject: [SML] AutoCAD and Sharepoint
Message-ID: <1635f9bd-02b4-dece-7b5d-be97ad78aae4@lagerquist.com>

While we are idle the choice has been made that we should move from a 
network structure to Onedrive and Sharepoint. So I wonder what 
experiences folks have using AutoCAD and Sharepoint.

Thanks,
Jon
-- 
Jon Lagerquist
--



From trodman at alasu.edu  Thu Apr 16 22:19:22 2020
From: trodman at alasu.edu (Thomas Rodman)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 17:19:22 -0500
Subject: [SML] TD Job Posting
Message-ID: <47D2CE6A-D660-4F69-9D04-48C2925301CF@alasu.edu>

Hey All,

Sorry if this is inappropriate to put on here. It?s been a while since I?ve posted on here and I couldn?t remember whether it was OK or not.  Moderator, please delete if it?s not.

Alabama State University is looking for a Technical Director / Facility Managet for our theatre department.  This is a non-faculty position that involves supervising student crews in the construction of sets, shop safety, tool usage, etc.

This is a 12 month appointment.  . Description and other details such as salary and benefits are at the link below:

https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/alasu/jobs/2742004/technical-director-scene-shop-facilities-manager?pagetype=jobOpportunitiesJobs

We are looking to find someone sooner rather than later so that the TD would be able to start as soon as we are able to return to some form of normalcy.

Thanks all,

Tom

Sent from my iPad

-- 
Thomas Rodman

Assistant Professor, Lighting & Sound
Department of Theatre Arts
Tullibody Fine Arts Center - Room 291
Alabama State University

 (Office) (334) 604-9129

trodman at alasu.edu
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From misswisc at aol.com  Fri Apr 17 00:59:09 2020
From: misswisc at aol.com (Kristi R-C)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 00:59:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] TD Job Posting
In-Reply-To: <47D2CE6A-D660-4F69-9D04-48C2925301CF@alasu.edu>
References: <47D2CE6A-D660-4F69-9D04-48C2925301CF@alasu.edu>
Message-ID: <1754884194.1938855.1587085149105@mail.yahoo.com>

Always good to hear about these things so we can refer good folks to good gigs!?
Kristi R-C


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Rodman via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
To: Stagecraft Discussion List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Thomas Rodman <trodman at alasu.edu>
Sent: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 5:19 pm
Subject: [SML] TD Job Posting

Hey All,
Sorry if this is inappropriate to put on here. It?s been a while since I?ve posted on here and I couldn?t remember whether it was OK or not. ?Moderator, please delete if it?s not.
Alabama State University is looking for a Technical Director / Facility Managet for our theatre department. ?This is a non-faculty position that involves supervising student crews in the construction of sets, shop safety, tool usage, etc.
This is a 12 month appointment. ?. Description and other details such as salary and benefits are at the link below:
https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/alasu/jobs/2742004/technical-director-scene-shop-facilities-manager?pagetype=jobOpportunitiesJobs
We are looking to find someone sooner rather than later so that the TD would be able to start as soon as we are able to return to some form of normalcy.
Thanks all,
Tom
Sent from my iPad
--?
Thomas Rodman
Assistant Professor, Lighting & SoundDepartment of Theatre ArtsTullibody Fine Arts Center - Room 291Alabama State University
?(Office) (334)?604-9129
trodman at alasu.edu____________________________________________________________
For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
Stagecraft mailing list
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From george at georgedavidson.ca  Fri Apr 17 15:46:57 2020
From: george at georgedavidson.ca (George Davidson)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:46:57 -0700
Subject: [SML] AutoCAD and Sharepoint
Message-ID: <CAGyhEiymaKP-WsOo-yudfwX7c8QK2C326e5JR44sGStoGbN6+g@mail.gmail.com>

I used sharepoint and it was OK, I work remote and did not always have
great internet connections so that was an issue

i found myself downloading a local copy and then re-uploading the new
version, this worked well as i liked having versions, but required that i
go back and cleanup and this was tedious with the web interface

I did try to have synced folders but had issues as it likes you to have a
connection and the program is less than great

Having access to everything in the office server was very nice as was being
able to do basic edits with the online versions of word/excel - it also
really works well with MS Office on local computers

That said Dropbox worked better for me with synced local folders, but
sharepoint was overall better

George
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From jon at lagerquist.com  Fri Apr 17 17:02:58 2020
From: jon at lagerquist.com (Jon Lagerquist)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:02:58 -0700
Subject: [SML] AutoCAD and Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <CAGyhEiymaKP-WsOo-yudfwX7c8QK2C326e5JR44sGStoGbN6+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGyhEiymaKP-WsOo-yudfwX7c8QK2C326e5JR44sGStoGbN6+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACXFVrnoJ_KedpJ2w_yWBhNCjrV31VxE9kcq0v_FDFCE7i15LQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks George,

What I am seeing is two things. That Sharepoint does not follow the Windows
Network locking system, and syncing is slow, I have seen times from one
minute to more than a day. Checking files out has not seemed to make any
difference to another instance being able to open it even though it is
supposed to. The best advice I have seen is to make sure everyone's
Sharepoint folder has the same local drive and directory so that all of the
references stay the same.

--
Jon Lagerquist
--


On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:47 AM George Davidson via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I used sharepoint and it was OK, I work remote and did not always have
> great internet connections so that was an issue
>
> i found myself downloading a local copy and then re-uploading the new
> version, this worked well as i liked having versions, but required that i
> go back and cleanup and this was tedious with the web interface
>
> I did try to have synced folders but had issues as it likes you to have a
> connection and the program is less than great
>
> Having access to everything in the office server was very nice as was
> being able to do basic edits with the online versions of word/excel - it
> also really works well with MS Office on local computers
>
> That said Dropbox worked better for me with synced local folders, but
> sharepoint was overall better
>
> George
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
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From fritz at schwentker.com  Fri Apr 17 19:54:34 2020
From: fritz at schwentker.com (fritz at schwentker.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 14:54:34 -0500
Subject: [SML] AutoCAD and Sharepoint
Message-ID: <00ea01d614f2$0668a210$1339e630$@schwentker.com>

Jon:
I'm thinking Sharepoint works best for Word, Excel, and related office-type
documents. Also, a good place to put PDFs for markups; and, I prefer as a
way to share/post files better that Dropbox.

But, I am thinking that AutoCAD  files would indeed behave better on the old
Windows networked file system you noted rather than mediated by Sharepoint.
If the cloud is in your future, then Autodesk products likely will behave
better with the Autodesk services. But of course, that would mean another
service to manage (and quite possible another cost.)

Best wishes always,

===============================================================
Fritz Schwentker

512 585 5184
fritz at schwentker.com

===============================================================






From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Sat Apr 25 21:12:36 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 14:12:36 -0700
Subject: [SML] high voltage memory
Message-ID: <b3280df6-018b-efa8-0470-0470ce145eab@durandinterstellar.com>

Just something to ponder, I ran across this while downloading a new PDF
manual for a high voltage probe.

https://dam-assets.fluke.com/s3fs-public/80K_____mveng0000.pdf

What, prey tell, is "memory cleaning"?

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru

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From gbierly at dejazzd.com  Sat Apr 25 21:20:18 2020
From: gbierly at dejazzd.com (Greg Bierly)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 17:20:18 -0400
Subject: [SML] high voltage memory
In-Reply-To: <b3280df6-018b-efa8-0470-0470ce145eab@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <b3280df6-018b-efa8-0470-0470ce145eab@durandinterstellar.com>
Message-ID: <7165099F-D8FD-4527-B4DB-810CBA41699D@dejazzd.com>

Something like eye bleach when you want to unsee something.  Memory cleaning is when a SML person sends us a mental image we need to ?unsee"

Greg Bierly

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Jerry Durand via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> 
> Just something to ponder, I ran across this while downloading a new PDF manual for a high voltage probe.
> 
> https://dam-assets.fluke.com/s3fs-public/80K_____mveng0000.pdf <https://dam-assets.fluke.com/s3fs-public/80K_____mveng0000.pdf>
> 
> What, prey tell, is "memory cleaning"?

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From niglew at googlemail.com  Sat Apr 25 21:23:56 2020
From: niglew at googlemail.com (Nigel Worsley)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 22:23:56 +0100
Subject: [SML] high voltage memory
In-Reply-To: <b3280df6-018b-efa8-0470-0470ce145eab@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <b3280df6-018b-efa8-0470-0470ce145eab@durandinterstellar.com>
Message-ID: <CAEq1Cr4Ax6H6Xy6Jzo5kQD4WJeVXTQunjWwjKyb4DSzt3wJZTQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 22:12, Jerry Durand via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> Just something to ponder, I ran across this while downloading a new PDF manual for a high voltage probe.
> https://dam-assets.fluke.com/s3fs-public/80K_____mveng0000.pdf
> What, prey tell, is "memory cleaning"?

That document is titled "Instrument Security Procedures", so my guess
would be something to do with erasing anything stored in the equipment
before leaving a sensitive area where secret information might exist.

Nigel Worsley



From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Mon Apr 27 21:04:44 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:04:44 -0700
Subject: [SML] Linux networking help needed
Message-ID: <19c217cb-3f5c-4b00-2f05-a698abbdcbd3@durandinterstellar.com>

This is strange...

Yesterday I was setting up a WiFi access point and plugged its Ethernet
into this Linux box (Kubuntu 18.04).? In setting it up I accidentally
deleted the connection, but that shouldn't be a problem, plug in my
network and it should pop back.

Only it didn't, Network Manager shows Bluetooth but no wired
connections.? But, the task bar icon changes from red to white and blue
when I plug the cable in.? WTF.

Doing a lot of searching I found my interface name apparently changed
from eth1 to eno1.? Well, strange but ok.? I fixed the /etc/interfaces
file and from the command line got reconnected.? I'm plugged into our
office router and that's working.? Small cheer!

Hold the beer!

The Network Manager still shows no Wired networks connected BUT there's
one in the main list.? Remember I'm currently connected and posting
through it.





Any thoughts?? Web searches turn up similar problems but I haven't
gotten the manager working yet.

current status:

jerry at Gandalf7:~$ ifconfig
eno1: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>? mtu 1500
??????? inet 192.168.0.136? netmask 255.255.255.0? broadcast 192.168.0.255
??????? inet6 XXXX::XXXX:XXXX:fXXXX:XXX? prefixlen 64? scopeid 0x20<link>
??????? ether XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX? txqueuelen 1000? (Ethernet)
??????? RX packets 370515? bytes 404322813 (404.3 MB)
??????? RX errors 0? dropped 0? overruns 0? frame 0
??????? TX packets 252218? bytes 41454284 (41.4 MB)
??????? TX errors 0? dropped 0 overruns 0? carrier 0? collisions 0
??????? device interrupt 16? memory 0xdc100000-dc120000?

lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING>? mtu 65536
??????? inet 127.0.0.1? netmask 255.0.0.0
??????? inet6 ::1? prefixlen 128? scopeid 0x10<host>
??????? loop? txqueuelen 1000? (Local Loopback)
??????? RX packets 4143? bytes 438013 (438.0 KB)
??????? RX errors 0? dropped 0? overruns 0? frame 0
??????? TX packets 4143? bytes 438013 (438.0 KB)
??????? TX errors 0? dropped 0 overruns 0? carrier 0? collisions 0

jerry at Gandalf7:~$ ip link show
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode
DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
??? link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state
UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
??? link/ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff


-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru

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From niglew at googlemail.com  Mon Apr 27 21:16:19 2020
From: niglew at googlemail.com (Nigel Worsley)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 22:16:19 +0100
Subject: [SML] Linux networking help needed
In-Reply-To: <19c217cb-3f5c-4b00-2f05-a698abbdcbd3@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <19c217cb-3f5c-4b00-2f05-a698abbdcbd3@durandinterstellar.com>
Message-ID: <CAEq1Cr7y7iOwTZ=AKFx72jiAMPjQb40bH1xGf5wM2yYsZej=Qw@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe the NSA's rootkit is hiding a bit more than intended :)

Nigel Worsley
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From bruce at ledworklights.com  Tue Apr 28 00:01:48 2020
From: bruce at ledworklights.com (Bruce)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 19:01:48 -0500
Subject: [SML] Linux networking help needed
In-Reply-To: <19c217cb-3f5c-4b00-2f05-a698abbdcbd3@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <19c217cb-3f5c-4b00-2f05-a698abbdcbd3@durandinterstellar.com>
Message-ID: <26482ef9-73c7-4bc2-8f36-e397f2aeba91@ledworklights.com>

On Monday, April 27, 2020 4:04:44 PM CDT, Jerry Durand via Stagecraft 
wrote:
> This is strange...
>
> Yesterday I was setting up a WiFi access point and plugged its 
> Ethernet into this Linux box (Kubuntu 18.04).  In setting it up 
> I accidentally deleted the connection, but that shouldn't be a 
> problem, plug in my network and it should pop back.
>
> Only it didn't, Network Manager shows Bluetooth but no wired 
> connections.  But, the task bar icon changes from red to white 
> and blue when I plug the cable in.  WTF.
>
> Doing a lot of searching I found my interface name apparently 
> changed from eth1 to eno1.  Well, strange but ok.  I fixed the 
> /etc/interfaces file and from the command line got reconnected.  
> I'm plugged into our office router and that's working.  Small 
> cheer!
>

  I wonder if you need to TELL NetworkManager what the new interface name 
is?  (I stay away from systemd/NM since it is a little too 'Windows-y' and 
*really* wants to hide too much from a skilled admin).  But it seems to be 
acting as though it doesn't know the interface name.  I think the changing 
colors is because NM knows the MAC address, but somewhere in the NM hive 
mind the fact that you haven't told it that the new name is eno1 means it 
can't advertise it on DBUS so it isn't showing up by name on the Plasma 
network applet.

  Just some thoughts.  I'd need to see what the 'wired' tab in the config 
panel is, or the output from 'nmcli' to help more I think.

:Bruce Cooper
--
Stagehand in Waiting.



From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Tue Apr 28 00:04:00 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 17:04:00 -0700
Subject: [SML] Linux networking help needed
In-Reply-To: <26482ef9-73c7-4bc2-8f36-e397f2aeba91@ledworklights.com>
References: <19c217cb-3f5c-4b00-2f05-a698abbdcbd3@durandinterstellar.com>
	<26482ef9-73c7-4bc2-8f36-e397f2aeba91@ledworklights.com>
Message-ID: <63b3423d-a8cd-e46f-ac5d-dd4c4d3afcb3@durandinterstellar.com>


On 4/27/20 5:01 PM, Bruce via Stagecraft wrote:

> ?I wonder if you need to TELL NetworkManager what the new interface
> name is?? (I stay away from systemd/NM since it is a little too
> 'Windows-y' and *really* wants to hide too much from a skilled
> admin).? But it seems to be acting as though it doesn't know the
> interface name.? I think the changing colors is because NM knows the
> MAC address, but somewhere in the NM hive mind the fact that you
> haven't told it that the new name is eno1 means it can't advertise it
> on DBUS so it isn't showing up by name on the Plasma network applet.
>
> ?Just some thoughts.? I'd need to see what the 'wired' tab in the
> config panel is, or the output from 'nmcli' to help more I think.
>
> :Bruce Cooper
> -- 
> Stagehand in Waiting.


jerry at Gandalf7:~$ nmcli device show
GENERAL.DEVICE:???????????????????????? eno1
GENERAL.TYPE:?????????????????????????? ethernet
GENERAL.HWADDR:???????????????????????? xxxx
GENERAL.MTU:??????????????????????????? 1500
GENERAL.STATE:????????????????????????? 10 (unmanaged)
GENERAL.CONNECTION:???????????????????? --
GENERAL.CON-PATH:?????????????????????? --
WIRED-PROPERTIES.CARRIER:?????????????? on
IP4.ADDRESS[1]:???????????????????????? 192.168.0.136/24
IP4.GATEWAY:??????????????????????????? 192.168.0.1
IP4.ROUTE[1]:?????????????????????????? dst = 0.0.0.0/0, nh =
192.168.0.1, mt = 0
IP4.ROUTE[2]:?????????????????????????? dst = 169.254.0.0/16, nh =
0.0.0.0, mt = 1000
IP4.ROUTE[3]:?????????????????????????? dst = 192.168.0.0/24, nh =
0.0.0.0, mt = 0
IP6.ADDRESS[1]:???????????????????????? xxxx/64
IP6.GATEWAY:??????????????????????????? --
IP6.ROUTE[1]:?????????????????????????? dst = fe80::/64, nh = ::, mt = 256
IP6.ROUTE[2]:?????????????????????????? dst = ff00::/8, nh = ::, mt =
256, table=255

GENERAL.DEVICE:???????????????????????? lo
GENERAL.TYPE:?????????????????????????? loopback
GENERAL.HWADDR:???????????????????????? 00:00:00:00:00:00
GENERAL.MTU:??????????????????????????? 65536
GENERAL.STATE:????????????????????????? 10 (unmanaged)
GENERAL.CONNECTION:???????????????????? --
GENERAL.CON-PATH:?????????????????????? --
IP4.ADDRESS[1]:???????????????????????? 127.0.0.1/8
IP4.GATEWAY:??????????????????????????? --
IP6.ADDRESS[1]:???????????????????????? ::1/128
IP6.GATEWAY:??????????????????????????? --




> -- 

Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru




From tech.dept2019 at yandex.com  Tue Apr 28 01:19:12 2020
From: tech.dept2019 at yandex.com (tech dept)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:19:12 -0500
Subject: [SML] Linux networking help needed
In-Reply-To: <63b3423d-a8cd-e46f-ac5d-dd4c4d3afcb3@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <19c217cb-3f5c-4b00-2f05-a698abbdcbd3@durandinterstellar.com>
	<26482ef9-73c7-4bc2-8f36-e397f2aeba91@ledworklights.com>
	<63b3423d-a8cd-e46f-ac5d-dd4c4d3afcb3@durandinterstellar.com>
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From bpotter at sps.edu  Wed Apr 29 17:54:50 2020
From: bpotter at sps.edu (Bill Potter)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:54:50 +0000
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
Message-ID: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>

I?ve convinced our department to give our major theatre award to one of our graduating tech students this year (YAY!) and along with the award they are normally given a book.

Any recommendations on an excellent lighting book for a kid with decent tech skills that could add some ?art? to his lighting?

Thanks,

Bill Potter
Arts Technical Director
St. Paul's School
Concord NH

From billconnerastc at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 18:01:56 2020
From: billconnerastc at gmail.com (Bill Conner)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:01:56 -0400
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
Message-ID: <CAHtCQ9RAwQct+yqDrgHPGuRPe4jWRHBeNXFG2gEbCm0TNYEUdQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'd pick Pilbrow's *Stage Lighting Design*


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 1:55 PM Bill Potter via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I?ve convinced our department to give our major theatre award to one of
> our graduating tech students this year (YAY!) and along with the award they
> are normally given a book.
>
> Any recommendations on an excellent lighting book for a kid with decent
> tech skills that could add some ?art? to his lighting?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Potter
> Arts Technical Director
> St. Paul's School
> Concord NH
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>


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From crpikeinportland at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 18:09:52 2020
From: crpikeinportland at gmail.com (christopher R. pike)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:09:52 -0700
Subject: [SML] Do you have a successful invention?
In-Reply-To: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
Message-ID: <CAB3iOqQuxBBXPCnjzxJaxFqW8rMbTwG-ZiFXB__rD=nvq6hC3g@mail.gmail.com>

I respect the fact that people who use this list have a wide range of
experiences, which is why I'm writing here.

I'm potentially going to file for a patent and fabricate a prototype
of an invention (actually, the plan is, fabricate first, file patent
second).  I would present this prototype to companies with the
capability to manufacture and market, and hopefully license this
product to such a company.  I have a quote from an engineering company
for the fabrication of the first prototype, and it isn't cheap.
(Filing for the patent if much less cost that fabrication.)  Before I
pull the plug on this, I was wondering if I could get some advise from
anybody who might have successfully filed for a patent, created a
product, and marketed it.

ps. This plan was in motion before the virus.

Thanks.



From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Wed Apr 29 18:21:53 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:21:53 -0700
Subject: [SML] Do you have a successful invention?
In-Reply-To: <CAB3iOqQuxBBXPCnjzxJaxFqW8rMbTwG-ZiFXB__rD=nvq6hC3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<CAB3iOqQuxBBXPCnjzxJaxFqW8rMbTwG-ZiFXB__rD=nvq6hC3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1ecf781a-642e-7d5c-4764-d54469a31457@durandinterstellar.com>

Be careful of the manufacturer for the pilot run.? A device I have a
patent on died because the funding people chose poorly and the
manufacturing company couldn't actually build working units.

On 4/29/20 11:09 AM, christopher R. pike via Stagecraft wrote:
> I respect the fact that people who use this list have a wide range of
> experiences, which is why I'm writing here.
>
> I'm potentially going to file for a patent and fabricate a prototype
> of an invention (actually, the plan is, fabricate first, file patent
> second).  I would present this prototype to companies with the
> capability to manufacture and market, and hopefully license this
> product to such a company.  I have a quote from an engineering company
> for the fabrication of the first prototype, and it isn't cheap.
> (Filing for the patent if much less cost that fabrication.)  Before I
> pull the plug on this, I was wondering if I could get some advise from
> anybody who might have successfully filed for a patent, created a
> product, and marketed it.
>
> ps. This plan was in motion before the virus.
>
> Thanks.
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net

-- 
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www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru

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From litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 18:25:12 2020
From: litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com (Stephen Litterst)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:25:12 -0400
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
Message-ID: <0c850130-4f39-fbb7-9ccd-aeabb4b78d81@gmail.com>

See if you can find a copy of Jean Rosenthal's "The Magic of Light."

I've never read it, but I've heard from the few people to get their 
hands on it that it's fantastic.

Steve L.

On 4/29/20 1:54 PM, Bill Potter via Stagecraft wrote:
> I?ve convinced our department to give our major theatre award to one of our graduating tech students this year (YAY!) and along with the award they are normally given a book.
> 
> Any recommendations on an excellent lighting book for a kid with decent tech skills that could add some ?art? to his lighting?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bill Potter
> Arts Technical Director
> St. Paul's School
> Concord NH
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
> 


-- 
Stephen Litterst            Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst at udel.edu           Mitchell Hall
302/831-0601                University of Delaware




From crpikeinportland at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 18:25:20 2020
From: crpikeinportland at gmail.com (christopher R. pike)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:25:20 -0700
Subject: [SML] Do you have a successful invention?
In-Reply-To: <1ecf781a-642e-7d5c-4764-d54469a31457@durandinterstellar.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<CAB3iOqQuxBBXPCnjzxJaxFqW8rMbTwG-ZiFXB__rD=nvq6hC3g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1ecf781a-642e-7d5c-4764-d54469a31457@durandinterstellar.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3iOqQrx-q_nh98vEy+7-rH6iY=97i+Gus9rt0tCrVHOEQg7Q@mail.gmail.com>

> Be careful of the manufacturer for the pilot run.  A device I have a patent on died because the funding people chose poorly and the manufacturing company couldn't actually build working units.

Jerry, why not just try a different manufacturing company?



From jt at techie.com  Wed Apr 29 18:29:03 2020
From: jt at techie.com (John Taylor)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:29:03 -0500
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <0c850130-4f39-fbb7-9ccd-aeabb4b78d81@gmail.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<0c850130-4f39-fbb7-9ccd-aeabb4b78d81@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <320ab690-314e-397a-2e11-3409533990c3@techie.com>

I strongly concur on Jean's book. It is wonderful!

JT

On 4/29/2020 1:25 PM, Stephen Litterst via Stagecraft wrote:
> See if you can find a copy of Jean Rosenthal's "The Magic of Light."
>
> I've never read it, but I've heard from the few people to get their
> hands on it that it's fantastic.
>
> Steve L.
>
> On 4/29/20 1:54 PM, Bill Potter via Stagecraft wrote:
>> I?ve convinced our department to give our major theatre award to one
>> of our graduating tech students this year (YAY!) and along with the
>> award they are normally given a book.
>>
>> Any recommendations on an excellent lighting book for a kid with
>> decent tech skills that could add some ?art? to his lighting?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill Potter
>> Arts Technical Director
>> St. Paul's School
>> Concord NH
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> Stagecraft mailing list
>> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
>> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>>
>
>

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From jdurand at durandinterstellar.com  Wed Apr 29 18:31:42 2020
From: jdurand at durandinterstellar.com (Jerry Durand)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:31:42 -0700
Subject: [SML] Do you have a successful invention?
In-Reply-To: <CAB3iOqQrx-q_nh98vEy+7-rH6iY=97i+Gus9rt0tCrVHOEQg7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<CAB3iOqQuxBBXPCnjzxJaxFqW8rMbTwG-ZiFXB__rD=nvq6hC3g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1ecf781a-642e-7d5c-4764-d54469a31457@durandinterstellar.com>
	<CAB3iOqQrx-q_nh98vEy+7-rH6iY=97i+Gus9rt0tCrVHOEQg7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7fd6e695-cef0-4b9a-2640-f8675617872b@durandinterstellar.com>

The money people dumped a lot into the pilot run, no further funds
available.

On 4/29/20 11:25 AM, christopher R. pike via Stagecraft wrote:
>> Be careful of the manufacturer for the pilot run.  A device I have a patent on died because the funding people chose poorly and the manufacturing company couldn't actually build working units.
> Jerry, why not just try a different manufacturing company?
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. +1 408-356-3886
www.DurandInterstellar.com & www.Durandinterstellar.ru

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From jonares at arescreative.com  Wed Apr 29 19:10:40 2020
From: jonares at arescreative.com (Jon Ares)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:10:40 -0700
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <320ab690-314e-397a-2e11-3409533990c3@techie.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<0c850130-4f39-fbb7-9ccd-aeabb4b78d81@gmail.com>
	<320ab690-314e-397a-2e11-3409533990c3@techie.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1Z+zZ76c0UQ3YAZRkS1N10R9xj5-SKUZts9c7LLCUUokc4kw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:30 AM John Taylor via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> I strongly concur on Jean's book. It is wonderful!
>
> JT
>

If you're not able to track down a copy of Rosenthal's book, another
really cool and inspirational book (if you can find it) is Max
Keller's "Light Fantastic - The Art and Design of Stage Lighting."
It's pretty Euro-centric, but great stuff, particularly in examples in
big, honkin' huge operas and very esoteric stage productions.
Beautiful book.

-- 
Jon Ares
www.arescreative.com



From bruce at ledworklights.com  Wed Apr 29 19:14:18 2020
From: bruce at ledworklights.com (Bruce)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:14:18 -0500
Subject: [SML] =?iso-8859-1?q?Do_you_have_a_successful_invention=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <CAB3iOqQuxBBXPCnjzxJaxFqW8rMbTwG-ZiFXB__rD=nvq6hC3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<CAB3iOqQuxBBXPCnjzxJaxFqW8rMbTwG-ZiFXB__rD=nvq6hC3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5bf16776-3adf-4a8d-be0d-224ce91082f3@ledworklights.com>

Be *very* prepared for the trouble that comes with attempting to license a 
product.  There is still SO much 'Not Invented Here' mindset.  Not to 
mention that you are typically not going to see greater than 10% of the 
sales price as payment, assuming exclusivity is granted.  This was my 
experience and counsel I received way back when.....

  Effective filing and defense of a patent was north of $25k, back nearly 
10 years ago.  Sure, the filing fee is tiny, but almost no one gets a 
patent accepted and granted in one go.  There are usually half a dozen 
[minimum] back-and-forth exchanges with the Patent Office, all of which 
SOMEONE has to properly and promptly respond to. Never mind if someone 
challenges your patent, unsuccesfully or otherwise.

  So, unless you figure you can make profit [not gross] of 100-125k in the 
first 3 years, I would advise that a patent may not be worthwhile. 

  There is a reason so many folks start small companies to sell their 
inventions.  It is often the path of least resistance, and those companies 
can be purchased in whole by bigger fish further down the line.

My bits-n-thought.

:Bruce Cooper
--
Stagehand in Waiting

 
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:09:52 PM CDT, christopher R. pike via 
Stagecraft wrote:
> I respect the fact that people who use this list have a wide range of
> experiences, which is why I'm writing here.
>
> I'm potentially going to file for a patent and fabricate a prototype
> of an invention (actually, the plan is, fabricate first, file patent
> second).  I would present this prototype to companies with the
> capability to manufacture and market, and hopefully license this
> product to such a company.  I have a quote from an engineering company
> for the fabrication of the first prototype, and it isn't cheap.
> (Filing for the patent if much less cost that fabrication.)  Before I
> pull the plug on this, I was wondering if I could get some advise from
> anybody who might have successfully filed for a patent, created a
> product, and marketed it.
>
> ps. This plan was in motion before the virus.
>
> Thanks.
>




From litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 19:15:24 2020
From: litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com (Stephen Litterst)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:15:24 -0400
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <CAN1Z+zZ76c0UQ3YAZRkS1N10R9xj5-SKUZts9c7LLCUUokc4kw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<0c850130-4f39-fbb7-9ccd-aeabb4b78d81@gmail.com>
	<320ab690-314e-397a-2e11-3409533990c3@techie.com>
	<CAN1Z+zZ76c0UQ3YAZRkS1N10R9xj5-SKUZts9c7LLCUUokc4kw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e76f23ec-2182-b7e0-9614-03c7e37d14a4@gmail.com>

On 4/29/20 3:10 PM, Jon Ares via Stagecraft wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:30 AM John Taylor via Stagecraft
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>
>> I strongly concur on Jean's book. It is wonderful!
>>
>> JT
>>
> 
> If you're not able to track down a copy of Rosenthal's book, another
> really cool and inspirational book (if you can find it) is Max
> Keller's "Light Fantastic - The Art and Design of Stage Lighting."
> It's pretty Euro-centric, but great stuff, particularly in examples in
> big, honkin' huge operas and very esoteric stage productions.
> Beautiful book.

Thank you!  I've been trying to remember the name and author for a while 
now!
Yikes.  $900 on Amazon.

Steve L.



-- 
Stephen Litterst            Technical Operations Supervisor
litterst at udel.edu           Mitchell Hall
302/831-0601                University of Delaware




From ladesigners at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 19:19:01 2020
From: ladesigners at gmail.com (Richard Niederberg)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:19:01 -0700
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
Message-ID: <CAJSxm-J9tJe0Ti3Ok0TfHm5nAu1MafaEOEi0Mv_7HOXs-j_p9Q@mail.gmail.com>

I would recommend the Josef Svoboda book and the Jean Rosenthal book, which
are definitely on the 'ART' side. "The Magic of Light" (by Jean Rosenthal)
-my first choice- has become very pricy, though. It was the ONLY book
stolen from my 5000+ book private library where a 3-book set of Audubon's
'Birds of America' [$10+ million auction price] - briefly on loan to me for
research, was on the bookshelf in plain sight. I guess the stealing a three
3' high books would be too hard to conceal.
/s/ Richard


















.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 10:55 AM Bill Potter via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I?ve convinced our department to give our major theatre award to one of
> our graduating tech students this year (YAY!) and along with the award they
> are normally given a book.
>
> Any recommendations on an excellent lighting book for a kid with decent
> tech skills that could add some ?art? to his lighting?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Potter
> Arts Technical Director
> St. Paul's School
> Concord NH
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>


-- 
/s/ Richard
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From jonares at arescreative.com  Wed Apr 29 19:19:37 2020
From: jonares at arescreative.com (Jon Ares)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:19:37 -0700
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <e76f23ec-2182-b7e0-9614-03c7e37d14a4@gmail.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<0c850130-4f39-fbb7-9ccd-aeabb4b78d81@gmail.com>
	<320ab690-314e-397a-2e11-3409533990c3@techie.com>
	<CAN1Z+zZ76c0UQ3YAZRkS1N10R9xj5-SKUZts9c7LLCUUokc4kw@mail.gmail.com>
	<e76f23ec-2182-b7e0-9614-03c7e37d14a4@gmail.com>
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Oof!!  $900?  Wow... I think I found mine either at Powell's or in a
thrift store long ago, not knowing anything about it, for maybe $15!!
guess this goes in my retirement account, to help make up the plunge
in my retirement value.....

 - Jon


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 12:16 PM Stephen Litterst via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> On 4/29/20 3:10 PM, Jon Ares via Stagecraft wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:30 AM John Taylor via Stagecraft
> > <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I strongly concur on Jean's book. It is wonderful!
> >>
> >> JT
> >>
> >
> > If you're not able to track down a copy of Rosenthal's book, another
> > really cool and inspirational book (if you can find it) is Max
> > Keller's "Light Fantastic - The Art and Design of Stage Lighting."
> > It's pretty Euro-centric, but great stuff, particularly in examples in
> > big, honkin' huge operas and very esoteric stage productions.
> > Beautiful book.
>
> Thank you!  I've been trying to remember the name and author for a while
> now!
> Yikes.  $900 on Amazon.
>
> Steve L.
>
>
>
> --
> Stephen Litterst            Technical Operations Supervisor
> litterst at udel.edu           Mitchell Hall
> 302/831-0601                University of Delaware
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net



-- 
Jon Ares
www.arescreative.com



From dsheehan.sml at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 20:59:22 2020
From: dsheehan.sml at gmail.com (Dan Sheehan)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:59:22 -0400
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <CAJSxm-J9tJe0Ti3Ok0TfHm5nAu1MafaEOEi0Mv_7HOXs-j_p9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<CAJSxm-J9tJe0Ti3Ok0TfHm5nAu1MafaEOEi0Mv_7HOXs-j_p9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF5K5-WDjtS2W5TYU1VCbBNAgk5QDRhFBfuiSg2Z4hgKktWciA@mail.gmail.com>

Have a look at  "The Lighting Art"  by Richard Palmer.
Less about the instruments and lamps (which evolve quite rapidly),
more about the human brain and eye and what the audience perceives
(which never becomes obsolete)
(and I do have both the Pilbrow and the Jean Rosenthal (!) in my collection)

-- 
...Dan Sheehan
Fixer of things that break
TD Walpole (MA) Footlighters
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From james.vogel at wisc.edu  Wed Apr 29 21:05:05 2020
From: james.vogel at wisc.edu (JIM VOGEL)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 21:05:05 +0000
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <CAF5K5-WDjtS2W5TYU1VCbBNAgk5QDRhFBfuiSg2Z4hgKktWciA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<CAJSxm-J9tJe0Ti3Ok0TfHm5nAu1MafaEOEi0Mv_7HOXs-j_p9Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Dan,
Do you know if there is a big difference between 1st and 2nd editions of "The Lighting Art"?
Thanks
Jim


From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> On Behalf Of Dan Sheehan via Stagecraft
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:59 PM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Dan Sheehan <dsheehan.sml at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SML] Lighting book

Have a look at  "The Lighting Art"  by Richard Palmer.
Less about the instruments and lamps (which evolve quite rapidly),
more about the human brain and eye and what the audience perceives
(which never becomes obsolete)
(and I do have both the Pilbrow and the Jean Rosenthal (!) in my collection)

--
...Dan Sheehan
Fixer of things that break
TD Walpole (MA) Footlighters
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From dsheehan.sml at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 21:26:49 2020
From: dsheehan.sml at gmail.com (Dan Sheehan)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:26:49 -0400
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR06MB5944AAFBEDC98B9168EC8CC487AD0@BYAPR06MB5944.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <8A61732B-9CFB-4C2B-B728-30215C8E09F9@sps.edu>
	<CAJSxm-J9tJe0Ti3Ok0TfHm5nAu1MafaEOEi0Mv_7HOXs-j_p9Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAF5K5-WDjtS2W5TYU1VCbBNAgk5QDRhFBfuiSg2Z4hgKktWciA@mail.gmail.com>
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I have 2nd edition 1994;  never saw the 1st  1985,
Preface  claims  lots of evolution of the text.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 5:05 PM JIM VOGEL <james.vogel at wisc.edu> wrote:

> Dan,
>
> Do you know if there is a big difference between 1st and 2nd editions of
> "The Lighting Art"?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> *On Behalf Of *Dan
> Sheehan via Stagecraft
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:59 PM
> *To:* Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
> *Cc:* Dan Sheehan <dsheehan.sml at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [SML] Lighting book
>
>
>
> Have a look at  "The Lighting Art"  by Richard Palmer.
>
> Less about the instruments and lamps (which evolve quite rapidly),
>
> more about the human brain and eye and what the audience perceives
> (which never becomes obsolete)
>
> (and I do have both the Pilbrow and the Jean Rosenthal (!) in my
> collection)
>
>
>
> --
>
> ...Dan Sheehan
> Fixer of things that break
>
> TD Walpole (MA) Footlighters
>


-- 
...Dan Sheehan
Fixer of things that break
TD Walpole (MA) Footlighters
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From jdunfee12 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 29 23:36:18 2020
From: jdunfee12 at yahoo.com (jdunfee12 at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 23:36:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Do you have a successful invention?
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 You don't need a working prototype to file for a patent.
  You must file for your patent before engaging in any public use, sale, offer for sale or disclosure outside of a confidential relationship. 

One optional approach is to first file for a provisional patent, which you describe as "Patent Pending". This is dirt cheap to do, a few hundred. And doesn't even get reviewed by the patent office.? It allows you time to market your patent and seek investors who can fund the actual patent application.? Note that you MUST file for the regular patent within 1 year of filing for the provisional patent, or forever loose the ability to file for that invention.

-Joe
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From crpikeinportland at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 23:48:24 2020
From: crpikeinportland at gmail.com (christopher R. pike)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:48:24 -0700
Subject: [SML] Do you have a successful invention?
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Hey Joe, in the case of my invention, I think I might need to make a
prototype.  The reason is that just looking at it on paper, nobody
would believe it was useful.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 4:36 PM jdunfee12--- via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> You don't need a working prototype to file for a patent.
>
> You must file for your patent before engaging in any public use, sale, offer for sale or disclosure outside of a confidential relationship.
>
> One optional approach is to first file for a provisional patent, which you describe as "Patent Pending". This is dirt cheap to do, a few hundred. And doesn't even get reviewed by the patent office.  It allows you time to market your patent and seek investors who can fund the actual patent application.  Note that you MUST file for the regular patent within 1 year of filing for the provisional patent, or forever loose the ability to file for that invention.
>
> -Joe
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From bruce at ledworklights.com  Wed Apr 29 23:57:46 2020
From: bruce at ledworklights.com (Bruce)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 18:57:46 -0500
Subject: [SML] =?iso-8859-1?q?Do_you_have_a_successful_invention=3F?=
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On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 6:48:24 PM CDT, christopher R. pike via 
Stagecraft wrote:
> Hey Joe, in the case of my invention, I think I might need to make a
> prototype.  The reason is that just looking at it on paper, nobody
> would believe it was useful.
>

  In that case get NDAs signed by any and all who are present during design 
or testing.

:Bruce
--
Stagehand in Waiting



From pguncheon at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 22:01:24 2020
From: pguncheon at gmail.com (Paul Guncheon)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:01:24 -1000
Subject: [SML] Lighting book
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<<Oof!!  $900?  Wow...>>
One of my better kept secrets:
"Magic of Light" - 14 copies from $100.00 - $296.00 from AddALL Used and
Out of Print Books

Every once in a while one is one there really cheap... like under $20.00.
But it's a long while.

Laters,
Paul 1
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