[SML] Fly system SWP, SOPs, P&P?

Wed Sep 22 20:32:27 UTC 2021

Hi Bill,

Apologies for any confusion. The retention rings for the lock handles are
there, but the rope lock base hardware does not have any provision for
lockout/tagout, which makes it somewhat difficult to actually lock the
rail, aside from the methods I spoke about from my years past.

*Tim Catlett*
*Lizard's Dream Theatrical, LLC*
Theatrical Consultant, Production Manager, & Technical Director
Mobile: 414.975.4424
tmcatlett at gmail.com

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 3:12 PM Bill Conner via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> curious - rings removed for noise?
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:41 AM Tim Catlett via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>> On a tangent to this discussion, I am currently in need of locking out a
>> rail which does not have lockout rings on the rope lock hardware.
>>
>> In the old days, we used to use a shoulder eye as one of the bolts
>> holding the lock to the rail and then lock the handle through that. I've
>> seen the handle literally locked to the rope in a couple of places. I've
>> also seen the handle retaining ring locked to the rail with cable. Are
>> there any other methods or purpose built hardware that people have in their
>> arsenal from the last 20 years or so? Ideally, methods which can be done
>> per lineset are preferred.
>>
>> *Tim Catlett*
>> *Lizard's Dream Theatrical, LLC*
>> Theatrical Consultant, Production Manager, & Technical Director
>> Mobile: 414.975.4424
>> tmcatlett at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 9:48 AM Matthew Breton via Stagecraft <
>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>
>>> To talk about SOPs, rather than Uncle Buddys, JR Clancy has some decent
>>> guidance documents for operating counterweight lineset systems.
>>>
>>> JRClancy.com -> Resources -> Safety and Operations Manuals
>>>
>>> Plus they have some handy signage you can download and customize.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew Breton
>>> Design for Theater and Dance
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of
>>> Riter, Andrew via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 21, 2021 5:46 PM
>>> *To:* 'Stagecraft Mailing List' <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>>> *Cc:* Riter, Andrew <andrew.riter at ubc.ca>
>>> *Subject:* [SML] Fly system SWP, SOPs, P&P?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Recently my worksite has been given managerial control over a 100 year
>>> old (renovated 10 years ago) small proscenium house.  It’s got 38 fly lines
>>> on 8” centres.  Single purchase.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Part of my to do list is to create the paperwork around the safe
>>> operation and training of staff and university students.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rather than start from scratch (I last ran flies 20 years ago before
>>> this job), I’m hoping to get some documents I can crib from.  The
>>> University has its own template files, I’m looking for sources of the
>>> language, risk matrix, things to include etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have any documents for a fly system titled the following, would
>>> you be willing to share?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Safe Work Procedures
>>>
>>> Standard Operating Procedures
>>>
>>> Policy and Procedures
>>>
>>> Operator Rules
>>>
>>> Training documents
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks very much.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PS:  what’s preferred for out of balance lineset while loading for tall
>>> set pieces or soft goods:  snub line, twists, or Uncle Benny?  I think I
>>> know the Hive’s answer, but just to confirm….
>>>
>>> Options 2 and 3 put too much wrong tension on the floating kick block,
>>> yes??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Andrew M. Riter*
>>> Assistant Technical Director, Head Lighting Technician
>>> Chan Centre for the Performing Arts
>>> The University of British Columbia | Vancouver Campus
>>> 6265 Crescent Road | Vancouver BC | V6T 1Z1 Canada
>>> Phone 604 822 2372
>>> andrew.riter at ubc.ca
>>>
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>>>
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