[SML] totally off topic: installing a second monitor in the kitchen

[Richard Niederberg]

I personally prefer STP CAT7 and above(unlisted) and feel that this will
allow for expansion at a later date. The LABOR cost is the same.

/s/ Richard
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On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 11:08 AM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I'll let others comment on the feasibility of HDMI splitters from
> cable boxes - sometimes there are issues with "handshaking" and DRM
> issues - the cable box asking if the monitor is willing/able to accept
> their encrypted data, and the monitor saying "yes, I'll respect your
> over-bearing and completely unnecessary Orwellian control over
> what/where I can watch what I paid for." (I don't have a cable box, so
> I can't say.)
>
> But I will mention there are a variety of ways to get a run of HDMI to
> your destination. HDMI, in its purest form, doesn't like to exceed (I
> think something like) 43 feet, and that's with chonky, healthy copper
> wires. But there are a variety of "active" HDMI cables that can go
> longer distances, and have distinct "source" and "screen" designations
> on their ends. Observe that, and you get a pretty picture. Install it
> backwards and you get blankness. As for the cable in between, some are
> chonky copper, some are fiber optic (great for pulling through a wall,
> as long as you can manage gentle arcs, rather than sharp corners.) I
> have gone through a lot of these "active" HDMI cables, and have had a
> lot of inconsistencies with them - specifically one computer will balk
> at Brand XY, but worked with Brand XZ, but this computer over here
> didn't like XZ, but was fine with XY.  Maybe cable boxes will be more
> tolerant.
> https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Meters-Compatible-Playstation-Monitors/dp/B0BBRFYNSW?ref_=ast_sto_dp
>
> There's also gizmos that allow you to use ethernet cabling, as well.
> But that's usually a solution that results in a somewhat compact box
> on each end of the ethernet cable
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Extender-Uncompressed-Transmit-Supported-Transmitter/dp/B07WFLHTKK?ref_=ast_sto_dp
>
> If you go this route, make sure you use at the very least Cat 5e, but
> Cat 6 is much better for these, and they work great.  I haven't used
> this specific model, but these usually are great at passing the EDID
> data back and forth, so devices believe you're watching on a 'real'
> TV.  I keep one of these setups as a backup in my facility, when those
> "active" HDMI cables decides it doesn't want to work anymore. I have
> noticed that the active HDMI cables can get warm, so that circuitry in
> the plugs could be contributing to their failure rate.
>
>  - Jon
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 9:14 AM Steve Shelley via Stagecraft
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks;
> >
> >
> >
> > *Totally off topic*
> >
> >
> >
> > So we’re joining the 20th century, by gum. Adding a second tv screen in
> the kitchen so we can see what’s already on the screen in the living room.
> Wow, is this space age or what? To Infinity or the Bathroom!
> >
> >
> >
> > That said, I’m a babe in the woods. I know nothing about video. I
> *think* I want to install a HDMI splitter at the cable box, and one run
> continues to the living room TV, and a new stick of HDMI cable runs to a
> newly-purchased monitor [which won’t need a tuner-right?] in my quick
> measurements it seems I can get away with a 25’-0” stick of HDMI cable
> [yes, that needs to be carefully re-measured.] it seems like the next
> native length is 50’. Right?
> >
> >
> >
> > Staples lists the following manufacturers: StarTech, Tripp Lite, 4XEM,
> NXT, and Belkin. This is just a second screen, so I don’t need the “gold”
> standard. Which of these is “good”? and which is “cheap, avoid”? [I know
> that the new HDMI run will not be just “laid down” and will be making some
> tight turns around doorways and such; is there a HDMI cable that is more
> flexible for this kind of install?
> >
> >
> >
> > Any thoughts you might have would be delightfully accepted. Happy fall!
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
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