From jdunfee12 at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 23 02:13:31 2026
From: jdunfee12 at yahoo.com (Joe)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 02:13:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights,
 with RGB ability - but not addressable
References: <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543@mail.yahoo.com>

I am doing a lighting plan for an 1908 movie house to be used for some basic theatrical shows. Nothing is there, except for the footlights, and some dim house lighting. (details below message if you want to know more).?
I would like to install some festoon lights going from the dome in the middle of the cove vaulted ceiling, to the perimeter of the criling.? These would add to the fairly dim existing house lighting, plus add the possibility of using them for some fun color lighting. Though, don't want to go to the trouble of using an addressable pixel type of system (so they don't have to learn to use the specialized software used to control so many lights). Rather, I would want each string to have RGB (and perhaps a warm white), control of each strand. I can easily find DMX controllers for RGBW LED tape. But, I can't find the Festoon type lights to use with them. Note that if I found them, we would use perhaps 8 strands (3 or 4 DMX channels each) and they would each be between 40' and 50' Long.
If I have to, I could settle on 24v white festoon lights, and use those same type of DMX LED strip controllers. In that case, there would be one strip per channel.
Is there such a thing as the festoon equivalent of a RGBW LED tape?---The details I promised in the first paragraph; it is the old 68th Street Theater in Upper Darby, PA.? Actor's Bible [?http://www.actors.bible?] has had the place for 10 years now, and named it Theatre 7000. (Address is 7000 Terminal Square). They had used it with a geodesic dome for projection, and all their lights were inside. But, that is now going out on tour, and so they want to add a light system for the open theater space itself.? There is essentially zero wing space, though the stage itself is fairly wide with a very high proscenium. There is fly space, a dressing room (up some short stairs), and even a trap room below the stage. Though, perhaps that was more related to the shallow orchestra pit.?And while the space will host some shows in the future, created by Actors.Bible, they also want to use the space for conferences, and perhaps some home school groups, when they want to do their own dramas.
-Joe
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From jonares at arescreative.com  Thu Apr 23 02:48:41 2026
From: jonares at arescreative.com (Jon Ares)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 19:48:41 -0700
Subject: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights,
 with RGB ability - but not addressable
In-Reply-To: <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAB0MSPnurB0D405=5NJKdx=EnzNsxoAHj5hs30SfP4awN1DffQ@mail.gmail.com>

A quick Amazon search shows several RGBW string lights - festoon-ish....
"cafe lights" "patio lights"....  some work with an app, and/or a remote
control.... doesn't appear to be DMX, but...

** I would definitely stay away from anything GOVEE.... for setup, and
operation (including turning them on and off) requires an app, and requires
you log in to the app every damn time. And if you unplug the lights, they
have to re-connect to the app, and it's a hassle.... just stay away from
GOVEE, and any that require an app for "programming."

I just searched "rgbw string lights" on Amazon. At least gives you some
vocabulary for deeper searching.

 - Jon

On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 7:16?PM Joe via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I am doing a lighting plan for an 1908 movie house to be used for some
> basic theatrical shows. Nothing is there, except for the footlights, and
> some dim house lighting. (details below message if you want to know more).
>
> I would like to install some festoon lights going from the dome in the
> middle of the cove vaulted ceiling, to the perimeter of the criling.  These
> would add to the fairly dim existing house lighting, plus add the
> possibility of using them for some fun color lighting. Though, don't want
> to go to the trouble of using an addressable pixel type of system (so they
> don't have to learn to use the specialized software used to control so many
> lights). Rather, I would want each string to have RGB (and perhaps a warm
> white), control of each strand. I can easily find DMX controllers for RGBW
> LED tape. But, I can't find the Festoon type lights to use with them. Note
> that if I found them, we would use perhaps 8 strands (3 or 4 DMX channels
> each) and they would each be between 40' and 50' Long.
>
> If I have to, I could settle on 24v white festoon lights, and use those
> same type of DMX LED strip controllers. In that case, there would be one
> strip per channel.
>
> Is there such a thing as the festoon equivalent of a RGBW LED tape?
> ---
> The details I promised in the first paragraph; it is the old 68th Street
> Theater in Upper Darby, PA.  Actor's Bible [ http://www.actors.bible ]
> has had the place for 10 years now, and named it Theatre 7000. (Address is
> 7000 Terminal Square). They had used it with a geodesic dome for
> projection, and all their lights were inside. But, that is now going out on
> tour, and so they want to add a light system for the open theater space
> itself.  There is essentially zero wing space, though the stage itself is
> fairly wide with a very high proscenium. There is fly space, a dressing
> room (up some short stairs), and even a trap room below the stage. Though,
> perhaps that was more related to the shallow orchestra pit. And while the
> space will host some shows in the future, created by Actors.Bible, they
> also want to use the space for conferences, and perhaps some home school
> groups, when they want to do their own dramas.
>
> -Joe
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
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From gbierly at dejazzd.com  Thu Apr 23 03:09:41 2026
From: gbierly at dejazzd.com (Greg Bierly)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 23:09:41 -0400
Subject: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights,
 with RGB ability - but not addressable
In-Reply-To: <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9E416F9B-74E0-45D2-9861-AD26D8F8C219@dejazzd.com>


I have used the Chauvet Festoons in a production.  They are only RGB (No white) and there is a newer version.  They are pixel mappable but can be dumbed down IIRC.  I rented them from a company between Lancaster and Reading a couple of years ago if you wanted to demo a set.  You would think what you are looking for would be a simple process but it is similar to a search I did on a knock off Martin FiberSource DMX controllable fiberoptic emitter.  There are now some choices out there but 8 years ago there was almost nothing available.  Good luck

Greg Bierly




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From herrick at evokecollaborative.com  Thu Apr 23 05:25:51 2026
From: herrick at evokecollaborative.com (Herrick Goldman)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 05:25:51 +0000
Subject: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights,
 with RGB ability - but not addressable
In-Reply-To: <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR04MB44757C2B5BF1FCB64982202AD62A2@DM6PR04MB4475.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

TMB makes great festoons if you can afford.

But these guys may be your best bet

https://s4lights.com/

Herrick Goldman
917.797.3624

www.EvokeCollaborative.com<http://www.EvokeCollaborative.com>
www.HGLightingDesign.com<http://www.HGLightingDesign.com>



________________________________
From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Joe via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2026 10:16:13 PM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Joe <jdunfee12 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights, with RGB ability - but not addressable

I am doing a lighting plan for an 1908 movie house to be used for some basic theatrical shows. Nothing is there, except for the footlights, and some dim house lighting. (details below message if you want to know more).

I would like to install some festoon lights going from the dome in the middle of the cove vaulted ceiling, to the perimeter of the criling.  These would add to the fairly dim existing house lighting, plus add the possibility of using them for some fun color lighting. Though, don't want to go to the trouble of using an addressable pixel type of system (so they don't have to learn to use the specialized software used to control so many lights). Rather, I would want each string to have RGB (and perhaps a warm white), control of each strand. I can easily find DMX controllers for RGBW LED tape. But, I can't find the Festoon type lights to use with them. Note that if I found them, we would use perhaps 8 strands (3 or 4 DMX channels each) and they would each be between 40' and 50' Long.

If I have to, I could settle on 24v white festoon lights, and use those same type of DMX LED strip controllers. In that case, there would be one strip per channel.

Is there such a thing as the festoon equivalent of a RGBW LED tape?
---
The details I promised in the first paragraph; it is the old 68th Street Theater in Upper Darby, PA.  Actor's Bible [ http://www.actors.bible ] has had the place for 10 years now, and named it Theatre 7000. (Address is 7000 Terminal Square). They had used it with a geodesic dome for projection, and all their lights were inside. But, that is now going out on tour, and so they want to add a light system for the open theater space itself.  There is essentially zero wing space, though the stage itself is fairly wide with a very high proscenium. There is fly space, a dressing room (up some short stairs), and even a trap room below the stage. Though, perhaps that was more related to the shallow orchestra pit. And while the space will host some shows in the future, created by Actors.Bible, they also want to use the space for conferences, and perhaps some home school groups, when they want to do their own dramas.

-Joe

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From billconnerastc at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 22:48:08 2026
From: billconnerastc at gmail.com (Bill Conner)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 18:48:08 -0400
Subject: [SML] Happy birthday William Shakespeare!
Message-ID: <CAHtCQ9SEMTmAZx2px-j8SxMZ=0KWcdpPsn4Hvhag=Ho8+Ox5dg@mail.gmail.com>

Thought it was noteworthy here on Stagecraft.

Bill Conner Fellow of the ASTC
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From ladesigners at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 23:10:52 2026
From: ladesigners at gmail.com (Richard Niederberg)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2026 16:10:52 -0700
Subject: [SML] Happy birthday William Shakespeare!
In-Reply-To: <CAHtCQ9SEMTmAZx2px-j8SxMZ=0KWcdpPsn4Hvhag=Ho8+Ox5dg@mail.gmail.com>
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it is

On Thu, Apr 23, 2026 at 3:50?PM Bill Conner via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Thought it was noteworthy here on Stagecraft.
>
> Bill Conner Fellow of the ASTC
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From fsellers at chauvetlighting.com  Fri Apr 24 14:31:38 2026
From: fsellers at chauvetlighting.com (Ford Sellers)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 14:31:38 +0000
Subject: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights,
 with RGB ability - but not addressable
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR04MB44757C2B5BF1FCB64982202AD62A2@DM6PR04MB4475.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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 <1120866182.1125134.1776910411543@mail.yahoo.com>
 <DM6PR04MB44757C2B5BF1FCB64982202AD62A2@DM6PR04MB4475.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
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Hi Joe,
There are several options for Festoon lights.
The ones that I have (no surprise, as I work for the company) is the Chauvet DJ version.  They are RGB, but because of the frosted globes, you can mix a reasonably convincing Warm White.
https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/festoon-2-rgb/

The set comes with 20 individual lamps, about 30" apart, that can be separated, but has a total lighted length of about 50'.
You can control up to 60 lamps per controller, if you purchase the additional lamps: https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/festoon-2-rgb-ext/
The controller is super-simple.  DMX control for either 3 channel (D, RGB for the entire string),  9 Channel (adds built-in auto programs and pre-built color macros), pixel control, or Pixel+ (meaning pixel control, plus colors and auto programs).  The color macros include a few whites.
They're rated at IP54, but I believe that's to cover the controller... the strings are sealed, and I use them like they're IP65... I use them in my backyard/deck, and don't worry about weather, except for the controller, which I keep under cover.

I've had my set for about 5 years.

HTH,
-Ford
________________________________
From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Joe via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2026 10:16:13 PM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Joe <jdunfee12 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights, with RGB ability - but not addressable

I am doing a lighting plan for an 1908 movie house to be used for some basic theatrical shows. Nothing is there, except for the footlights, and some dim house lighting. (details below message if you want to know more).

I would like to install some festoon lights going from the dome in the middle of the cove vaulted ceiling, to the perimeter of the criling.  These would add to the fairly dim existing house lighting, plus add the possibility of using them for some fun color lighting. Though, don't want to go to the trouble of using an addressable pixel type of system (so they don't have to learn to use the specialized software used to control so many lights). Rather, I would want each string to have RGB (and perhaps a warm white), control of each strand. I can easily find DMX controllers for RGBW LED tape. But, I can't find the Festoon type lights to use with them. Note that if I found them, we would use perhaps 8 strands (3 or 4 DMX channels each) and they would each be between 40' and 50' Long.

If I have to, I could settle on 24v white festoon lights, and use those same type of DMX LED strip controllers. In that case, there would be one strip per channel.

Is there such a thing as the festoon equivalent of a RGBW LED tape?
---
The details I promised in the first paragraph; it is the old 68th Street Theater in Upper Darby, PA.  Actor's Bible [ http://www.actors.bible<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.actors.bible__;!!J_x18tFw!O5b_DfRKyyCNGdVdLy5peBVAoagI8vHMXKGVMEqfKY5EiD_g46_O3zLP494ELYDwsh4ZAf8bOnD-vJdltZotnq4d2Ex9lw$> ] has had the place for 10 years now, and named it Theatre 7000. (Address is 7000 Terminal Square). They had used it with a geodesic dome for projection, and all their lights were inside. But, that is now going out on tour, and so they want to add a light system for the open theater space itself.  There is essentially zero wing space, though the stage itself is fairly wide with a very high proscenium. There is fly space, a dressing room (up some short stairs), and even a trap room below the stage. Though, perhaps that was more related to the shallow orchestra pit. And while the space will host some shows in the future, created by Actors.Bible, they also want to use the space for conferences, and perhaps some home school groups, when they want to do their own dramas.

-Joe

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From sdwheaton at fuse.net  Fri Apr 24 14:44:42 2026
From: sdwheaton at fuse.net (Stuart Wheaton)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 10:44:42 -0400
Subject: [SML] Does the Yale Tech brief still exist?
Message-ID: <dff73c37-3d6c-42b3-85ce-bd56a6710c04@fuse.net>

If one has an idea for a tech brief how do I contact them, otherwise is 
there another place for that sort of content?

Stuart Wheaton




From fsellers at chauvetlighting.com  Fri Apr 24 15:05:09 2026
From: fsellers at chauvetlighting.com (Ford Sellers)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 15:05:09 +0000
Subject: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights,
 with RGB ability - but not addressable
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To add to this...
The set comes with a 5m extension cable.
I use it to keep my controller under cover outside, but since it can be anywhere in the run, you could use it to get three lengths of festoon in the layout you described, if your end points for 2 of the runs can be <5m apart...
3 runs: put the controller at your hub, run some lights, then insert the 5m extension to the END point of your next run, then back to/across the hub for runs 2 & 3.  Voila, 150' of festoon in three runs apparently coming from a central hub.
As far as I know, you cannot add additional extensions, and they are not sold separately, so you'd need to order it/them through our parts department to even try.
the product specification says 3 strings of 20 lamps and 1 extension per controller.  I would imagine that if you didn't use the full 60 possible lamps, you could use additional extensions... but that is NOT what is in the manual...

Anyway, for 8 50' strings, you'd need 3 sets (with controllers), and 5 Extension kits.

________________________________
From: Ford Sellers <fsellers at chauvetlighting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2026 10:31 AM
To: Joe <jdunfee12 at yahoo.com>; Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Herrick Goldman <herrick at evokecollaborative.com>
Subject: Re: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights, with RGB ability - but not addressable

Hi Joe,
There are several options for Festoon lights.
The ones that I have (no surprise, as I work for the company) is the Chauvet DJ version.  They are RGB, but because of the frosted globes, you can mix a reasonably convincing Warm White.
https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/festoon-2-rgb/

The set comes with 20 individual lamps, about 30" apart, that can be separated, but has a total lighted length of about 50'.
You can control up to 60 lamps per controller, if you purchase the additional lamps: https://www.chauvetdj.com/products/festoon-2-rgb-ext/
The controller is super-simple.  DMX control for either 3 channel (D, RGB for the entire string),  9 Channel (adds built-in auto programs and pre-built color macros), pixel control, or Pixel+ (meaning pixel control, plus colors and auto programs).  The color macros include a few whites.
They're rated at IP54, but I believe that's to cover the controller... the strings are sealed, and I use them like they're IP65... I use them in my backyard/deck, and don't worry about weather, except for the controller, which I keep under cover.

I've had my set for about 5 years.

HTH,
-Ford
________________________________
From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Joe via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2026 10:16:13 PM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Joe <jdunfee12 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [SML] Searching for Festoon lights, with RGB ability - but not addressable

I am doing a lighting plan for an 1908 movie house to be used for some basic theatrical shows. Nothing is there, except for the footlights, and some dim house lighting. (details below message if you want to know more).

I would like to install some festoon lights going from the dome in the middle of the cove vaulted ceiling, to the perimeter of the criling.  These would add to the fairly dim existing house lighting, plus add the possibility of using them for some fun color lighting. Though, don't want to go to the trouble of using an addressable pixel type of system (so they don't have to learn to use the specialized software used to control so many lights). Rather, I would want each string to have RGB (and perhaps a warm white), control of each strand. I can easily find DMX controllers for RGBW LED tape. But, I can't find the Festoon type lights to use with them. Note that if I found them, we would use perhaps 8 strands (3 or 4 DMX channels each) and they would each be between 40' and 50' Long.

If I have to, I could settle on 24v white festoon lights, and use those same type of DMX LED strip controllers. In that case, there would be one strip per channel.

Is there such a thing as the festoon equivalent of a RGBW LED tape?
---
The details I promised in the first paragraph; it is the old 68th Street Theater in Upper Darby, PA.  Actor's Bible [ http://www.actors.bible<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.actors.bible__;!!J_x18tFw!O5b_DfRKyyCNGdVdLy5peBVAoagI8vHMXKGVMEqfKY5EiD_g46_O3zLP494ELYDwsh4ZAf8bOnD-vJdltZotnq4d2Ex9lw$> ] has had the place for 10 years now, and named it Theatre 7000. (Address is 7000 Terminal Square). They had used it with a geodesic dome for projection, and all their lights were inside. But, that is now going out on tour, and so they want to add a light system for the open theater space itself.  There is essentially zero wing space, though the stage itself is fairly wide with a very high proscenium. There is fly space, a dressing room (up some short stairs), and even a trap room below the stage. Though, perhaps that was more related to the shallow orchestra pit. And while the space will host some shows in the future, created by Actors.Bible, they also want to use the space for conferences, and perhaps some home school groups, when they want to do their own dramas.

-Joe

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From jonares at arescreative.com  Fri Apr 24 16:25:32 2026
From: jonares at arescreative.com (Jon Ares)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 09:25:32 -0700
Subject: [SML] Happy Arbor Day to all the riggers out there
Message-ID: <CAB0MSPkGF9XfQYajP7vMKPHVNhsVEys+n5MC+AGnVNCJSegqKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Life is filled with ups and downs, but hopefully Arbor Day can give us the
lift we need.

 - Jon

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From billconnerastc at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 18:19:00 2026
From: billconnerastc at gmail.com (Bill Conner)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 14:19:00 -0400
Subject: [SML] Happy Arbor Day to all the riggers out there
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I was out with the local land trust planting trees today. Does that count?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 12:29?PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Life is filled with ups and downs, but hopefully Arbor Day can give us the
> lift we need.
>
>  - Jon
>
> --
> Jon Ares
> 503-412-8248
> www.arescreative.com
> Photographic Art Sales: https://jonares.com
> Books by Jon: https://shorturl.at/TSwkT
> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/jon.ares/>
>
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From jonares at arescreative.com  Fri Apr 24 19:38:21 2026
From: jonares at arescreative.com (Jon Ares)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:38:21 -0700
Subject: [SML] Happy Arbor Day to all the riggers out there
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It counts on so many levels. Thank you for your service.

 - Jon

On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 11:25?AM Bill Conner via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I was out with the local land trust planting trees today. Does that count?
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 12:29?PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>> Life is filled with ups and downs, but hopefully Arbor Day can give us
>> the lift we need.
>>
>>  - Jon
>>
>> --
>> Jon Ares
>> 503-412-8248
>> www.arescreative.com
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From misswisc at aol.com  Mon Apr 27 03:53:35 2026
From: misswisc at aol.com (Kristi R-C)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 03:53:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] Steven Santos
References: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751@mail.yahoo.com>

I met Steven through the list and got to meet him in person as well as check out his circus school and try out some of teh equipment when I toured through Boston in 2012?
Just learned that he died in March. Thought you might want to know.?
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From gbierly at dejazzd.com  Mon Apr 27 04:06:57 2026
From: gbierly at dejazzd.com (Greg Bierly)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 00:06:57 -0400
Subject: [SML] Steven Santos
In-Reply-To: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I never met him in person but through our meeting on the list he became a great resource.  Through phone calls,  purchase of his rigging book, and fabric sales/lyra rentals, it allowed us to include an aerial circus arts into our productions over the years. I am sorry to hear this sad news.  Thank you for sharing.

Greg Bierly

> On Apr 26, 2026, at 11:53 PM, Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> 
> I met Steven through the list and got to meet him in person as well as check out his circus school and try out some of teh equipment when I toured through Boston in 2012 
> 
> Just learned that he died in March. Thought you might want to know. 
> 
> Kristi R-C
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From herrick at evokecollaborative.com  Mon Apr 27 11:47:36 2026
From: herrick at evokecollaborative.com (Herrick Goldman)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 11:47:36 +0000
Subject: [SML] Steven Santos
In-Reply-To: <DBB30329-FDEB-4AA2-8AF0-42A36B45475F@dejazzd.com>
References: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Aww man. He was very generous with his time and knowledge.  RIP

Herrick Goldman
917.797.3624

www.EvokeCollaborative.com<http://www.EvokeCollaborative.com>
www.HGLightingDesign.com<http://www.HGLightingDesign.com>


________________________________
From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Greg Bierly via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2026 12:06:57 AM
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Greg Bierly <gbierly at dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: [SML] Steven Santos

I never met him in person but through our meeting on the list he became a great resource.  Through phone calls,  purchase of his rigging book, and fabric sales/lyra rentals, it allowed us to include an aerial circus arts into our productions over the years. I am sorry to hear this sad news.  Thank you for sharing.

Greg Bierly

On Apr 26, 2026, at 11:53 PM, Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

I met Steven through the list and got to meet him in person as well as check out his circus school and try out some of teh equipment when I toured through Boston in 2012

Just learned that he died in March. Thought you might want to know.

Kristi R-C
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From taco at peak.org  Mon Apr 27 14:42:10 2026
From: taco at peak.org (Don Taco)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 10:42:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [SML] (no subject)
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References: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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On another sad news front, Pat Kight is no longer homeless at the hospital, and is settled into a memory care facility. Her sister Toni had about 8 of us old-timers over to her place, where we packed up scripts and mementos to send to the theater she spent four decades working at, tossed a few personal items into our cars, wore various, mostly purple, scarves and robes, ate as much as we could out of the freezer, hoisted a few glasses of memory tonic, and pawed through a lifetime of photographs, marveling and laughing at our younger selves and our colleagues. Each of us took five or six photos of her with us and we're going to mail them to her, one every month or two, sort of randomly. Pieces of her past. It was great to see everyone, but there was a cloud over the silver lining. 

Pat's new address is 5881 Woodside Dr. SW, Salem, 97306. Brookstone Alzheimer's Care Center. 
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From ford.sellers at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 14:49:06 2026
From: ford.sellers at gmail.com (Ford Sellers)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 10:49:06 -0400
Subject: [SML] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <353794824.58972196.1777300930424.JavaMail.zimbra@peak.org>
References: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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thanks for the update Don.


On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 10:46?AM Don Taco via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

>
>
>   On another sad news front, Pat Kight is no longer homeless at the
> hospital, and is settled into a memory care facility. Her sister Toni had
> about 8 of us old-timers over to her place, where we packed up scripts and
> mementos to send to the theater she spent four decades working at, tossed a
> few personal items into our cars, wore various, mostly purple, scarves and
> robes, ate as much as we could out of the freezer, hoisted a few glasses of
> memory tonic, and pawed through a lifetime of photographs, marveling and
> laughing at our younger selves and our colleagues. Each of us took five or
> six photos of her with us and we're going to mail them to her, one every
> month or two, sort of randomly. Pieces of her past. It was great to see
> everyone, but there was a cloud over the silver lining.
>
> Pat's new address is 5881 Woodside Dr. SW, Salem, 97306. Brookstone
> Alzheimer's Care Center.
> ____________________________________________________________
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From jonares at arescreative.com  Mon Apr 27 14:49:52 2026
From: jonares at arescreative.com (Jon Ares)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 07:49:52 -0700
Subject: [SML] (no subject)
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References: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Thank you so much for the update, Don. Glad you and a group were able to
pitch in.  She is blessed, to be sure.

 - Jon

On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 7:46?AM Don Taco via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

>
>
>   On another sad news front, Pat Kight is no longer homeless at the
> hospital, and is settled into a memory care facility. Her sister Toni had
> about 8 of us old-timers over to her place, where we packed up scripts and
> mementos to send to the theater she spent four decades working at, tossed a
> few personal items into our cars, wore various, mostly purple, scarves and
> robes, ate as much as we could out of the freezer, hoisted a few glasses of
> memory tonic, and pawed through a lifetime of photographs, marveling and
> laughing at our younger selves and our colleagues. Each of us took five or
> six photos of her with us and we're going to mail them to her, one every
> month or two, sort of randomly. Pieces of her past. It was great to see
> everyone, but there was a cloud over the silver lining.
>
> Pat's new address is 5881 Woodside Dr. SW, Salem, 97306. Brookstone
> Alzheimer's Care Center.
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
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> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>


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From bill at sapsis-rigging.com  Mon Apr 27 14:55:18 2026
From: bill at sapsis-rigging.com (Bill Sapsis)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 14:55:18 +0000
Subject: [SML] (no subject)
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References: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <FF988987-B656-47D3-BC6E-5B29B6AE8B90@sapsis-rigging.com>

Thanks, Don.

Sad news, yes.  But very happy to hear she as everyone?s support.

Bill S.

bill at sapsis-rigging.com<mailto:bill at sapsis-rigging.com>
267.278.4561 mobile

[signature_2912828952]<https://www.sapsis-rigging.com/ETCP.html>

From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of "stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Reply-To: "stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Date: Monday, April 27, 2026 at 10:44?AM
To: "stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Cc: Don Taco <taco at peak.org>
Subject: Re: [SML] (no subject)



  On another sad news front, Pat Kight is no longer homeless at the hospital, and is settled into a memory care facility. Her sister Toni had about 8 of us old-timers over to her place, where we packed up scripts and mementos to send to the theater she spent four decades working at, tossed a few personal items into our cars, wore various, mostly purple, scarves and robes, ate as much as we could out of the freezer, hoisted a few glasses of memory tonic, and pawed through a lifetime of photographs, marveling and laughing at our younger selves and our colleagues. Each of us took five or six photos of her with us and we're going to mail them to her, one every month or two, sort of randomly. Pieces of her past. It was great to see everyone, but there was a cloud over the silver lining.

Pat's new address is 5881 Woodside Dr. SW, Salem, 97306. Brookstone Alzheimer's Care Center.
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From narishkup at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 15:52:30 2026
From: narishkup at gmail.com (Mike Katz)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 11:52:30 -0400
Subject: [SML] Steven Santos
In-Reply-To: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CAKZOanM6o5JF--Xz1Yq-J=-rPXXG_yH1WFYwPkbn5LsTeS9+OQ@mail.gmail.com>

He was a good person. I enjoyed working with him years ago. Thanks for
posting this I had not heard despite living here in the Beantown.
Thinking of him brings good memories.
Mike


Michael Katz
narishkup at gmail.com
C: 857.383.0020


On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 11:55?PM Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I met Steven through the list and got to meet him in person as well as
> check out his circus school and try out some of teh equipment when I toured
> through Boston in 2012
>
> Just learned that he died in March. Thought you might want to know.
>
> Kristi R-C
> ____________________________________________________________
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From tmcatlett at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 15:57:39 2026
From: tmcatlett at gmail.com (Tim Catlett)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 10:57:39 -0500
Subject: [SML] Steven Santos
In-Reply-To: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <745285576.3294358.1777262015751.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Oh man, that?s very sad. He helped me a great deal on a few projects during
my years in NYC. He was very generous and knowledgeable. That is a great
loss to all of us.

Thanks for letting us know.

Tim Catlett


On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 22:55 Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I met Steven through the list and got to meet him in person as well as
> check out his circus school and try out some of teh equipment when I toured
> through Boston in 2012
>
> Just learned that he died in March. Thought you might want to know.
>
> Kristi R-C
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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From charlie.rsd at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 16:43:04 2026
From: charlie.rsd at gmail.com (Charlie Richmond)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 17:43:04 +0100
Subject: [SML] (no subject)
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Thank you for this, Don! It's a wonderful way to have things evolve....

Charlie

On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 at 15:45, Don Taco via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

>
>
>   On another sad news front, Pat Kight is no longer homeless at the
> hospital, and is settled into a memory care facility. Her sister Toni had
> about 8 of us old-timers over to her place, where we packed up scripts and
> mementos to send to the theater she spent four decades working at, tossed a
> few personal items into our cars, wore various, mostly purple, scarves and
> robes, ate as much as we could out of the freezer, hoisted a few glasses of
> memory tonic, and pawed through a lifetime of photographs, marveling and
> laughing at our younger selves and our colleagues. Each of us took five or
> six photos of her with us and we're going to mail them to her, one every
> month or two, sort of randomly. Pieces of her past. It was great to see
> everyone, but there was a cloud over the silver lining.
>
> Pat's new address is 5881 Woodside Dr. SW, Salem, 97306. Brookstone
> Alzheimer's Care Center.
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>


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From mptecdir at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 22:45:26 2026
From: mptecdir at gmail.com (Michael Powers)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 17:45:26 -0500
Subject: [SML] Steven Santos
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1777291202.9732.stagecraft_theatrical.net@theatrical.net>
References: <mailman.1.1777291202.9732.stagecraft_theatrical.net@theatrical.net>
Message-ID: <CAKv0ZEsCAB7Yfzyu4eWu+2Nihm6fpjj6RnAXqc0Rr-zCCkeb0g@mail.gmail.com>

Like others on this list, my contact with Steven was only through the list
or various correspondence, sadly, we never actually met in person.    We
traded information and I purchased some of his products for some projects.
I felt a true friendship with Steven as we discussed a multitude of
subjects over the years.  He will be missed.

Michael

Michael Powers
USMC ?66-?68
ETCP cert. rigger #820 (ret?d)
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From lindau21 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 28 13:01:24 2026
From: lindau21 at yahoo.com (c lindau)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 13:01:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [SML] (no subject)
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Thanks Don, for the update on Pat. It's good to hear that some of her things will have new life with you and her friends. She's lucky to have you all there for her.?
Cindy LindauIATSE 13 (retired)Minneapolis MN
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From judithku at post.bgu.ac.il  Tue Apr 28 16:47:06 2026
From: judithku at post.bgu.ac.il (Judy Kupferman)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 19:47:06 +0300
Subject: [SML] Pat Kight, Steve Santos
Message-ID: <CADuh2xLmkP6D=bObGFX4AHN8wYSy1rr7YxOBGXEv92+6pUSYmw@mail.gmail.com>

This list is getting sad! But it's good to know that people don't just fade
away and they're important and part of the commnity.
Everybody else - take care!

Judy


*On another sad news front, Pat Kight is no longer homeless at the
hospital, and is settled into a memory care facility. Her sister Toni had
about 8 of us old-timers over to her place, where we packed up scripts and
mementos to send to the theater she spent four decades working at, tossed a
few personal items into our cars, wore various, mostly purple, scarves and
robes, ate as much as we could out of the freezer, hoisted a few glasses of
memory tonic, and pawed through a lifetime of photographs, marveling and
laughing at our younger selves and our colleagues. Each of us took five or
six photos of her with us and we're going to mail them to her, one every
month or two, sort of randomly. Pieces of her past. It was great to see
everyone, but there was a cloud over the silver lining.*
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