<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hello! I'm getting ready for devised performance installation in our black box. There are three rooms that surround the main black box the director plans on leading the audience into during the performance. The first room is the "earth room" - in this room the director has asked for grass on the floor. I've found a company that sells raffia grass mats and are flame retardant. This sounds like the perfect solution - right? Well, the director threw me a curve ball today and said she wants real grass. I was wondering if anyone has done this in the past and what the challenges are using sod? The first challenge I can think of is the sod flame retardant? I'm pretty sure I can't hook up sprinklers up nightly - Stage Management would hate me - haha!<br><br></div>The second room is "under the ocean". The room is 10'x30' and she wants sand on the floor. I've talked to too many people that have put sand in their theatre and say it's a nightmare after the show closes. I've looked into using granulated cork (FYI cork is flame retardant), however it is expensive.<br><br></div>Please share your thoughts and if you have any granulated cork for sale!<br><br></div>P.S. I think the SM's will hate me regardless after this show! haha<br><div><div><div><br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Thank You,<br><br></div><div><b>Matt Evans<br></b></div><div><b>Technical Director - University Of Dayton<br></b></div><div dir="ltr"><br><font size="1"><i></i></font><br></div></div></div>
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Today's Topics:<br>
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1. Re: Orchestra Pit Netting (Stephen Litterst)<br>
2. Re: Orchestra Pit Netting (Bill Conner)<br>
3. Anyone using MacBook Air for Vectorworks? (Jon Ares)<br>
4. USB power and current (Jerry Durand)<br>
5. Re: USB power and current (hklong)<br>
6. Re: Orchestra Pit Netting (Steven Hood)<br>
7. Gas or Electric for Dryers (Stephen Rees)<br>
8. San Antonio beer (Scott Spidell)<br>
9. Re: Gas or Electric for Dryers (Mike Katz)<br>
10. Re: Anyone using MacBook Air for Vectorworks? (Dave Vick)<br>
11. Re: Gas or Electric for Dryers (Charlie Richmond)<br>
12. Re: Gas or Electric for Dryers (Riter, Andrew)<br>
13. Re: Gas or Electric for Dryers (Ross)<br>
14. Re: Gas or Electric for Dryers (Stephen Rees)<br>
15. Re: Gas or Electric for Dryers (Mike Katz)<br>
16. Re: Gas or Electric for Dryers (Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center)<br>
17. Re: Gas or Electric for Dryers (Jerry Durand)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:09:10 -0500<br>
From: Stephen Litterst <<a href="mailto:litterst.stagecraft@gmail.com">litterst.stagecraft@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Keith Newman <<a href="mailto:keithbnewman@gmail.com">keithbnewman@gmail.com</a>>, Stagecraft Mailing List<br>
<<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [SML] Orchestra Pit Netting<br>
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On 12/17/14 2:34 PM, Keith Newman via Stagecraft wrote:<br>
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> I find it hard to believe that we can easily<br>
> justify an automated lift with the exception of trying to minimize man<br>
> hours (including both set up and moving of instruments throughout<br>
> rehearsals from practice spaces to the stage. If it is in the budget, I<br>
> won't fight against it so long as it is done correctly and safely.<br>
<br>
Make friends with the music teacher, or whoever is in charge of the<br>
instruments. Remind them how difficult it will be to get pianos,<br>
tympani, marimba and harps into a pit that has no elevator. Aim them at<br>
the budget people and watch the fur fly. :)<br>
<br>
Ok, maybe that's an oversimplification, but you've raised a very good<br>
point. There's a safety issue both on behalf of the instruments (some<br>
of those can be pretty pricey) and whoever is trying to move the upright<br>
piano into the pit for rehearsal. It's not just the pit filler that is<br>
a labor and safety issue.<br>
<br>
Steve L.<br>
--<br>
Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor<br>
<a href="mailto:litterst@udel.edu">litterst@udel.edu</a> Mitchell Hall<br>
<a href="tel:302%2F831-0601" value="+13028310601">302/831-0601</a> University of Delaware<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:50:57 -0600<br>
From: Bill Conner <<a href="mailto:billconnerastc@gmail.com">billconnerastc@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Stephen Litterst <<a href="mailto:slitterst@gmail.com">slitterst@gmail.com</a>>, Stephen Litterst<br>
<<a href="mailto:litterst.stagecraft@gmail.com">litterst.stagecraft@gmail.com</a>>, Stagecraft Mailing List<br>
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Subject: Re: [SML] Orchestra Pit Netting<br>
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Keith-<br>
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I think the fall onto the net with all of the musicians and<br>
instruments and the corner of that upright that Stephen wants down<br>
there will be much worse than a fall on the tensioned wire grid just<br>
7-8" below the stage floor.And if under a filler, how do you protect<br>
the workers installing or removing the fillers from falls?<br>
<br>
The pit access - which I describe as either below stage (level) or<br>
through the house - is a difficult issue. I'm not successful on every<br>
project but I have come to push very hard for below stage (even if<br>
that is from the sides and down stage of the proscenium) because one,<br>
through the house requires a discontinuity in the net or tensioned<br>
wire grid, and two, the wheel chair access is greatly complicated by<br>
the through the house route. Assuming the the pit is lower than row 1,<br>
the situating of a wheelchair lift for through the house access to the<br>
pit has to be designed first, and aisles and seating second. Whats<br>
more, if the lift also provides access to the stage or the stage is<br>
less than 42" above the first row, there are few wheelchair lifts that<br>
don't have a permanent mast or tower the sticks up a lot, often with<br>
guards and a gate that stay at stage level. The ones that don't cost<br>
much more, so there will always be a push to accept the sight line<br>
obstructer model. I can come close to showing that providing safety<br>
from falls, not discriminating against people that must use<br>
wheelchairs, and not having a machine that blocks sight lines is<br>
almost more inexpensively solved with a below stage access route to<br>
the pit.<br>
--<br>
Bill Conner Fellow of the ASTC<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:41:10 -0800<br>
From: Jon Ares <<a href="mailto:jonares@arescreative.com">jonares@arescreative.com</a>><br>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Subject: [SML] Anyone using MacBook Air for Vectorworks?<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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I'm talking primarily for the lighting side of things (Spotlight)...<br>
does it work ok with an Air? The price and weight appeals to me...<br>
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--<br>
Jon Ares<br>
<a href="http://www.arescreative.com" target="_blank">www.arescreative.com</a><br>
Follow my twits @jon_ares<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:37:04 -0800<br>
From: Jerry Durand <<a href="mailto:jdurand@interstellar.com">jdurand@interstellar.com</a>><br>
To: Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Subject: [SML] USB power and current<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:549221B0.90402@interstellar.com">549221B0.90402@interstellar.com</a>><br>
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Here's a nifty little monitor that I just got, gives the USB bus voltage<br>
and the device current draw while the device is in use. No options on<br>
it, plug it in and the display alternates between V and A about once a<br>
second.<br>
<br>
Now you know if your device is actually charging and if the power source<br>
is up to standards.<br>
<br>
$2.59 including shipping.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6374148392.html" target="_blank">http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6374148392.html</a><br>
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--<br>
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. <a href="http://www.interstellar.com" target="_blank">www.interstellar.com</a><br>
tel: <a href="tel:%2B1%20408%20356-3886" value="+14083563886">+1 408 356-3886</a>, USA toll free: <a href="tel:1%20866%20356-3886" value="+18663563886">1 866 356-3886</a><br>
Skype: jerrydurand<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:18:16 -0800<br>
From: hklong <<a href="mailto:happycanyonpyro3@gmail.com">happycanyonpyro3@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Jerry Durand <<a href="mailto:jdurand@interstellar.com">jdurand@interstellar.com</a>>, "stagecraft@theatrical<br>
net" <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [SML] USB power and current<br>
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Having bought bunching these,with a little shopping you can find them in red,blue ,yellow. In a usb world very handy<br>
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On December 17, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Jerry Durand via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Here's a nifty little monitor that I just got, gives the USB bus voltage and the device current draw while the device is in use.? No options on it, plug it in and the display alternates between V and A about once a second.<br>
<br>
Now you know if your device is actually charging and if the power source is up to standards.<br>
<br>
$2.59 including shipping.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6374148392.html" target="_blank">http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6374148392.html</a><br>
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-- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. <a href="http://www.interstellar.com" target="_blank">www.interstellar.com</a> tel: <a href="tel:%2B1%20408%20356-3886" value="+14083563886">+1 408 356-3886</a>, USA toll free: <a href="tel:1%20866%20356-3886" value="+18663563886">1 866 356-3886</a> Skype: jerrydurand<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:18:04 -0800<br>
From: Steven Hood <<a href="mailto:shood_td@yahoo.com">shood_td@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:slitterst@gmail.com">slitterst@gmail.com</a>>, Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [SML] Orchestra Pit Netting<br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:14a5b66f228.27f5.6f7d1c9102b81228b121511c9b3868d0@yahoo.com">14a5b66f228.27f5.6f7d1c9102b81228b121511c9b3868d0@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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FWIW, we have no pit, but we do have a marimba that's too big to fit the<br>
elevator to bring up from the band room to the stage... we have to walk it<br>
around the building an extra 150' or so...<br>
Then, we have to lift it up onto the stage, because our elevator stops at<br>
house level...<br>
Steven R Hood<br>
<a href="tel:310.756.3555" value="+13107563555">310.756.3555</a><br>
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On December 17, 2014 12:09:36 PM Stephen Litterst via Stagecraft<br>
<<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 12/17/14 2:34 PM, Keith Newman via Stagecraft wrote:<br>
><br>
> > I find it hard to believe that we can easily<br>
> > justify an automated lift with the exception of trying to minimize man<br>
> > hours (including both set up and moving of instruments throughout<br>
> > rehearsals from practice spaces to the stage. If it is in the budget, I<br>
> > won't fight against it so long as it is done correctly and safely.<br>
><br>
> Make friends with the music teacher, or whoever is in charge of the<br>
> instruments. Remind them how difficult it will be to get pianos,<br>
> tympani, marimba and harps into a pit that has no elevator. Aim them at<br>
> the budget people and watch the fur fly. :)<br>
><br>
> Ok, maybe that's an oversimplification, but you've raised a very good<br>
> point. There's a safety issue both on behalf of the instruments (some<br>
> of those can be pretty pricey) and whoever is trying to move the upright<br>
> piano into the pit for rehearsal. It's not just the pit filler that is<br>
> a labor and safety issue.<br>
><br>
> Steve L.<br>
> --<br>
> Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor<br>
> <a href="mailto:litterst@udel.edu">litterst@udel.edu</a> Mitchell Hall<br>
> <a href="tel:302%2F831-0601" value="+13028310601">302/831-0601</a> University of Delaware<br>
><br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:27:09 -0500<br>
From: Stephen Rees <<a href="mailto:Stephen.Rees@fredonia.edu">Stephen.Rees@fredonia.edu</a>><br>
To: Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Subject: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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I know this is not a costumer list, but I wonder if any of you might<br>
have any insights into the efficacy of electric versus gas dryers in a<br>
university costume shop application. The program does a lot of fabric<br>
dyeing for productions as well as class work in addition to daily<br>
laundry of costume items for running productions. Please share your<br>
rationales for one or the other.<br>
Many thanks in advance.<br>
Steve Rees<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:15:15 -0600<br>
From: Scott Spidell <<a href="mailto:scott@scottspidell.com">scott@scottspidell.com</a>><br>
To: Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Subject: [SML] San Antonio beer<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:09E127FE-D51F-435E-9728-741D115F3BD3@scottspidell.com">09E127FE-D51F-435E-9728-741D115F3BD3@scottspidell.com</a>><br>
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Just wanted to give a shout-out and thanks to June and Kevin for the backstage tour of the Lion King last night at the Majestic. My students and I are quite grateful. For me, the face-to-face over a beer was even better,<br>
Thanks again,<br>
Scott<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:59:41 -0500<br>
From: Mike Katz <<a href="mailto:narishkup@gmail.com">narishkup@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Stephen Rees <<a href="mailto:Stephen.Rees@fredonia.edu">Stephen.Rees@fredonia.edu</a>>, Stagecraft Mailing List<br>
<<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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If you can do gas I would recommend it. It heats faster & is less expensive<br>
in use and more sustainable than having the power come from electricity, If<br>
you have a massive PV system then go ahead and use the electricity, I<br>
suspect Fredonia does not have that (It would be under snow MOST of the<br>
year).<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
<br>
Michael Katz<br>
<a href="mailto:narishkup@gmail.com">narishkup@gmail.com</a><br>
C: <a href="tel:857.383.0020" value="+18573830020">857.383.0020</a><br>
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Stephen Rees via Stagecraft <<br>
<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I know this is not a costumer list, but I wonder if any of you might<br>
> have any insights into the efficacy of electric versus gas dryers in a<br>
> university costume shop application. The program does a lot of fabric<br>
> dyeing for productions as well as class work in addition to daily<br>
> laundry of costume items for running productions. Please share your<br>
> rationales for one or the other.<br>
> Many thanks in advance.<br>
> Steve Rees<br>
><br>
> ____________________________________________________________<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:03:39 -0600<br>
From: Dave Vick <<a href="mailto:dave.vick@gmail.com">dave.vick@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [SML] Anyone using MacBook Air for Vectorworks?<br>
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On Wednesday, December 17, 2014, Jon Ares via Stagecraft <<br>
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I'm talking primarily for the lighting side of things (Spotlight)...<br>
> does it work ok with an Air?<br>
><br>
<br>
It should work fine; can't imagine why it wouldn't.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Dave Vick<br>
Automation Carpenter / Rigger,<br>
"Dirty Dancing" Tour 2014-15<br>
<a href="tel:517-749-3859" value="+15177493859">517-749-3859</a><br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:03:02 -0800<br>
From: Charlie Richmond <<a href="mailto:charlie.rsd@gmail.com">charlie.rsd@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Mike Katz <<a href="mailto:narishkup@gmail.com">narishkup@gmail.com</a>>, Stagecraft Mailing List<br>
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Subject: Re: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
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On 18 December 2014 at 07:59, Mike Katz via Stagecraft <<br>
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> If you can do gas I would recommend it. It heats faster & is less<br>
> expensive in use and more sustainable than having the power come from<br>
> electricity, If you have a massive PV system then go ahead and use the<br>
> electricity, I suspect Fredonia does not have that (It would be under snow<br>
> MOST of the year).<br>
><br>
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This brings up a question I have always wondered: do places with PC arrays<br>
that also have lots of snow mount them on a self-cleaning angle or do they<br>
have any sort of plan to keep them clear?<br>
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Should I change the subject line? ;-)<br>
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C-)<br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:29:22 +0000<br>
From: "Riter, Andrew" <<a href="mailto:andrew.riter@ubc.ca">andrew.riter@ubc.ca</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
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Stephen asked<br>
> I know this is not a costumer list, but I wonder if any of you might have any<br>
> insights into the efficacy of electric versus gas dryers in a university costume<br>
> shop application.<br>
<br>
But it is a theatre list . . . and costumes make theatre.<br>
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I've heard that while gas is great for heating houses and hot water, it's not great for clothes dryers.<br>
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I have no basis of knowledge to actually verify or justify. That's just what I recall hearing.<br>
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(in BC, where electricity is cheap cheap cheap. Unlike our gasoline, but that's down 45cents/litre since the summer, or 1/3 of its price)<br>
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When replacing our hot water heater a few years ago, we asked about the On-demand HW systems (electric). The answer was that is best suited to a gas system, because the electric version of on-demand requires more power than typically wired into the house.<br>
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Andrew M. Riter<br>
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Message: 13<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:01:22 -0600<br>
From: "Ross" <<a href="mailto:Faker200@netins.net">Faker200@netins.net</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
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Being that if I show may face in the costume room, they chase me out.....<br>
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I have a question or two, do you have access to both options, or would you<br>
have to run new lines for one of them? If this is on a college campus, will<br>
they even allow you to use gas?<br>
<br>
Thought from the peanut gallery<br>
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Clay Ross<br>
Pro Dreamer<br>
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From: Stephen Rees via Stagecraft<br>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:27 AM<br>
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Subject: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
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I know this is not a costumer list, but I wonder if any of you might<br>
have any insights into the efficacy of electric versus gas dryers in a<br>
university costume shop application. The program does a lot of fabric<br>
dyeing for productions as well as class work in addition to daily<br>
laundry of costume items for running productions. Please share your<br>
rationales for one or the other.<br>
Many thanks in advance.<br>
Steve Rees<br>
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Message: 14<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:10:19 -0500<br>
From: Stephen Rees <<a href="mailto:Stephen.Rees@fredonia.edu">Stephen.Rees@fredonia.edu</a>><br>
To: Ross <<a href="mailto:Faker200@netins.net">Faker200@netins.net</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
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Yes, Clay. this is a college campus. New construction from the ground<br>
up. This is an ongoing MEP discussion. Both gas and elec. are under<br>
consideration. Architects have proposed one, the Costume Designer and<br>
Shop Manager desire the other.<br>
Steve<br>
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Ross <<a href="mailto:Faker200@netins.net">Faker200@netins.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> Being that if I show may face in the costume room, they chase me out.....<br>
><br>
> I have a question or two, do you have access to both options, or would you<br>
> have to run new lines for one of them? If this is on a college campus, will<br>
> they even allow you to use gas?<br>
><br>
> Thought from the peanut gallery<br>
><br>
><br>
> Clay Ross<br>
> Pro Dreamer<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Rees via Stagecraft<br>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:27 AM<br>
> To: Stagecraft<br>
> Subject: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
><br>
><br>
> I know this is not a costumer list, but I wonder if any of you might<br>
> have any insights into the efficacy of electric versus gas dryers in a<br>
> university costume shop application. The program does a lot of fabric<br>
> dyeing for productions as well as class work in addition to daily<br>
> laundry of costume items for running productions. Please share your<br>
> rationales for one or the other.<br>
> Many thanks in advance.<br>
> Steve Rees<br>
><br>
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Message: 15<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:24:10 -0500<br>
From: Mike Katz <<a href="mailto:narishkup@gmail.com">narishkup@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Stephen Rees <<a href="mailto:Stephen.Rees@fredonia.edu">Stephen.Rees@fredonia.edu</a>>, Stagecraft Mailing List<br>
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Subject: Re: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
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Out of curiosity, which group favors gas, and which electric?<br>
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Michael Katz<br>
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C: <a href="tel:857.383.0020" value="+18573830020">857.383.0020</a><br>
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Stephen Rees via Stagecraft <<br>
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> Yes, Clay. this is a college campus. New construction from the ground<br>
> up. This is an ongoing MEP discussion. Both gas and elec. are under<br>
> consideration. Architects have proposed one, the Costume Designer and<br>
> Shop Manager desire the other.<br>
> Steve<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Ross <<a href="mailto:Faker200@netins.net">Faker200@netins.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Being that if I show may face in the costume room, they chase me out.....<br>
> ><br>
> > I have a question or two, do you have access to both options, or would<br>
> you<br>
> > have to run new lines for one of them? If this is on a college campus,<br>
> will<br>
> > they even allow you to use gas?<br>
> ><br>
> > Thought from the peanut gallery<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Clay Ross<br>
> > Pro Dreamer<br>
> ><br>
> > -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Rees via Stagecraft<br>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:27 AM<br>
> > To: Stagecraft<br>
> > Subject: [SML] Gas or Electric for Dryers<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > I know this is not a costumer list, but I wonder if any of you might<br>
> > have any insights into the efficacy of electric versus gas dryers in a<br>
> > university costume shop application. The program does a lot of fabric<br>
> > dyeing for productions as well as class work in addition to daily<br>
> > laundry of costume items for running productions. Please share your<br>
> > rationales for one or the other.<br>
> > Many thanks in advance.<br>
> > Steve Rees<br>
> ><br>
> > ____________________________________________________________<br>
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Message: 16<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 10:43:37 -0800<br>
From: "Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center"<br>
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From personal experience with home laundry equipment definitely gas.<br>
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Gas has faster warmup, generally lower cost per BTU.<br>
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If your electrical power is primarily hydroelectric then the cost<br>
advantage might not be as great as with hydrocarbon fuel-fired generation.<br>
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With either heat source we scavenge dryer heat into the living space<br>
during cold weather rather than exhaust all those toasty therms to the<br>
outdoors.<br>
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Carla<br>
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On 12/18/2014 6:27 AM, Stephen Rees via Stagecraft wrote:<br>
> I know this is not a costumer list, but I wonder if any of you might<br>
> have any insights into the efficacy of electric versus gas dryers in a<br>
> university costume shop application. The program does a lot of fabric<br>
> dyeing for productions as well as class work in addition to daily<br>
> laundry of costume items for running productions. Please share your<br>
> rationales for one or the other.<br>
> Many thanks in advance.<br>
> Steve Rees<br>
><br>
> ____________________________________________________________<br>
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Message: 17<br>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 11:08:56 -0800<br>
From: Jerry Durand <<a href="mailto:jdurand@interstellar.com">jdurand@interstellar.com</a>><br>
To: "Riter, Andrew" <<a href="mailto:andrew.riter@ubc.ca">andrew.riter@ubc.ca</a>>, Stagecraft Mailing List<br>
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On 12/18/2014 09:29 AM, Riter, Andrew via Stagecraft wrote:<br>
> When replacing our hot water heater a few years ago, we asked about<br>
> the On-demand HW systems (electric). The answer was that is best<br>
> suited to a gas system, because the electric version of on-demand<br>
> requires more power than typically wired into the house.<br>
<br>
You'll find that the on-demand heaters also often require re-piping the<br>
gas since then need a lot NOW, then are off the rest of the time. Sort<br>
of like using a drag racer to go to the corner store.<br>
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In California we're required to use on-demand heaters with any<br>
remodeling and all new construction. I've seen people getting around<br>
the downsides of these by adding a storage tank and recirculating pump.<br>
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