<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Agreed with everything Michael said.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">You *might* get lucky on a 25m run of passive cable, especially as you appear to only need 1280x800 max resolution (higher resolution = shorter passive distance limit), however, there are so many chances for things to go wrong, and that's way over the suggested max limit of 15m for HD sources, that you may as well do it right the first time. The length limit is actually based on bandwidth carrying capability, not an actual resolution, so that's just a thumbrule guideline.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">We use the FSR HDMI Ribbon Cables at work and they're very nice, in between MonoPrice and Celerity price-wise, and all 3 are rated up to 4K/UHD so would serve you well in future upgrades. I've been meaning to try out the MonoPrice varieties...it'll be interesting to see the results, as they sell passive 100' HDMI cables as well which do not work. But, to be fair, their literature suggests using an HDMI booster with them.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Alternately, the CAT5e/6/7 extenders are also very good, especially if you specify the HDBaseT varieties. They're about equivalent in cost to the fiber optic HDMI ribbon cables, however, as Michael said the fiber cables are more fragile. If there's a chance of these cables being moved around with any regularity, fiber types could break and you can't re-terminate them yourself. With HDBaseT extenders, you can slice through a CAT5e/6/7 cable and have a new connector crimped on within 15 minutes, even if it's mid-cable (recrimp both ends and use a RJ45 coupler to get through the show). Even if you get a fiber HDBaseT extender, it's simple fiber...you can reconnectorize that as well (harder, but do-able).</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Another benefit of the HDBaseT extenders is they carry Audio, Video, Ethernet, Control (RS232/IR) and Power (to power the receiver from the transmitter so no AC adapter needed). Also, HDBaseT is a "standard" so you can mix and match manufacturers.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Hope this helps,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Jeff</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Michael Sauder via Stagecraft <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra">For passive copper, anything over 25' starts entering problematic areas, and over 50' is a no-go if you want any expectation of reliability. There are active copper cables (they have integrated repeater electronics) that will work in the 25-100' range.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">But for 25 meters, you might want to look into optical HDMI cables. I personally have not used them yet but they keep coming up when I'm researching designs, and I'm sure I will use them soon. Here are two sources:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><a href="http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=slimrun+av" target="_blank">http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=slimrun+av</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><a href="http://www.celeritytek.com/product.html" target="_blank">http://www.celeritytek.com/product.html</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">They are, of course, more fragile than copper cable, and more expensive, but theoretically more reliable. At 25 meters you have a choice between active cooper and fiber, depends on your environment. Be aware of environmental noise that can interfere with long copper runs.</div><div class="gmail_extra"> </div></blockquote></div><br><br><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">-------------------------------------<br>Jeff Klein, DMC- E<br>Audio Visual Project Manager<br>Dept of Defense<br>Washington D.C. District<br><br> "Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble." 1 Peter 5:5</div></div></div>
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