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<div>Well, a: that's not the NRA'S position on the matter. And b: we have performed this experiment with lots of state by state variations. </div><div><br></div><div>Violent crime rates in the usa are high in places with high population density and low economic and social status. These places are also overwhelmingly places where personal firearms ownership is prohibited or defacto prohibited to ordinary decent citizens. </div><div>Another datum. Mass shootings in the usa are overwhelmingly perpetrated in places that are gun free zones by statute or by property owner rules. It's almost as if the crazy people are not morons, and seek out places where their intended victims are less likely to be armed with firearms. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>But this is straying dangerously off topic for this list. Let's just agree to disagree and hoist beverages of our choice while debating the virtues of BBQ. </div><div><br></div><div>Dale</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Chip Wood via Stagecraft <stagecraft@theatrical.net> <br>Date: 05/20/2016 16:32 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: stagecraft@theatrical.net <br>Cc: Chip Wood <chip.a.wood@gmail.com> <br>Subject: Re: [SML] NYC Stagehand shot by police <br><br>I absolutely agree w/ you and so does my retired Las Vegas cop son-in-law. However, I will ask one question and one only. Why does the NRA state that it would be better if everybody were carrying in any location, esp if pressure and massive adrenaline dumps could endanger innocent bystanders? Chip 1 On 5/19/2016 5:26 PM, Dave Vick via Stagecraft wrote: On Thursday, May 19, 2016, Ray Gibson via Stagecraft <stagecraft@theatrical.net> wrote: > Or bullets to the legs or something... That only works in the movies. Anyone who has any training in the use of deadly force, be they military, police, or civilian, knows that if you have to shoot, you shoot to stop the threat (and no more), and the best way to do that is aim center-of-mass. Fancy leg-shots taken under pressure and accompanied by massive adrenaline dumps do not work; chances are FAR greater than even that you'll miss your target and endanger someone or something standing innocently behind the threat.</body></html>