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<div>I designed an economical winch that is easy to build if you can weld. It's in the 2005 Tech Expo catalog from USITT. Should be available online.</div><div><br></div><div>Loren Schreiber </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:88%;color:#364f67" dir="auto">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: stagecraft-request@theatrical.net <br>Date: 11/9/16 4:00 AM (GMT+08:00) <br>To: stagecraft@theatrical.net <br>Subject: Stagecraft Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7 <br><br>Send Stagecraft mailing list submissions to<br> stagecraft@theatrical.net<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> stagecraft-request@theatrical.net<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> stagecraft-owner@theatrical.net<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Stagecraft digest..."<br><br><br>For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/><br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Tracking Scenery on a Budget (Mark35816@aol.com)<br> 2. Re: Tracking Scenery on a Budget (JIM VOGEL)<br> 3. Re: Tracking Scenery on a Budget (gbierly)<br> 4. Re: Tracking Scenery on a Budget (Joe D)<br> 5. Re: Tracking Scenery on a Budget (Jon Lagerquist)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 21:06:59 -0500<br>From: Mark35816@aol.com<br>To: stagecraft@theatrical.net<br>Subject: [SML] Tracking Scenery on a Budget<br>Message-ID: <494d85.240e0cda.45528d43@aol.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"<br><br>I'm designing some scenery for a high school production of Disney's Little <br>Mermaid and am considering tracking most of the scenery on and off the <br>stage. In my mind I'd like to use multiple tracks in order to track something <br>off right and on left and vice versa. Maybe four to six track systems in <br>all. <br><br>I think I can figure out the tracks, but coming up with an economical way <br>to drive the scenery is what I'm struggling with. I would imagine that <br>some type of manual winch systems would be the most economical.<br><br>Anyone have a design for something along those lines they can send me? <br>Another idea? I have several months before I have to put this together so I <br>have time to get some things built, etc. <br><br>As I said in the title, there is of course the budget to consider. <br><br>Thanks in advance!<br>Mark S. Eccleston<br>256-694-8575<br>Huntsville, AL <br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 03:26:38 +0000<br>From: JIM VOGEL <james.vogel@wisc.edu><br>To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft@theatrical.net><br>Subject: Re: [SML] Tracking Scenery on a Budget<br>Message-ID: <28052CF3-D479-4039-9524-BBBBE5BAD029@wisc.edu><br>Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII<br><br>High school students as stagehands pushing the scenery might be the least expensive. <br><br>Sent from my iPad<br><br>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 20:07, Mark S. Eccleston via Stagecraft <stagecraft@theatrical.net> wrote:<br>> <br>> I'm designing some scenery for a high school production of Disney's Little <br>> Mermaid and am considering tracking most of the scenery on and off the <br>> stage. In my mind I'd like to use multiple tracks in order to track something <br>> off right and on left and vice versa. Maybe four to six track systems in <br>> all. <br>> <br>> I think I can figure out the tracks, but coming up with an economical way <br>> to drive the scenery is what I'm struggling with. I would imagine that <br>> some type of manual winch systems would be the most economical.<br>> <br>> Anyone have a design for something along those lines they can send me? <br>> Another idea? I have several months before I have to put this together so I <br>> have time to get some things built, etc. <br>> <br>> As I said in the title, there is of course the budget to consider. <br>> <br>> Thanks in advance!<br>> Mark S. Eccleston<br>> 256-694-8575<br>> Huntsville, AL <br>> <br>> <br>> ____________________________________________________________<br>> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/><br>> Stagecraft mailing list<br>> Stagecraft@theatrical.net<br>> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 08:40:19 -0500<br>From: gbierly <gbierly@dejazzd.com><br>To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft@theatrical.net><br>Subject: Re: [SML] Tracking Scenery on a Budget<br>Message-ID: <1AEC6138-7A63-4894-9F0F-023CFC4F5AE8@dejazzd.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>> High school students as stagehands pushing the scenery might be the least expensive. <br><br>Next step in cost and simplicity would be push sticks (I googled it and only found Creative Conners automation system going but the name Pushstick that will NOT be inexpensive) Think of your childhood little red wagon handle. A long straight pushrod hinged at the scenic wagon that would tip straight up when offstage but lay flat on the deck when in position on stage.<br><br>Next would be ropes attached to each side of the wagon laying across the floor of the stage with stagehands pulling from either wing. <br><br>All of the above could use regular wagons with swivel or straight casters. Rose Brand has a low profile Pallet Master Caster the your wagon could be as low as a sheet of plywood. <br><br>Track with a cable under the floor is the slickest and can be done on a budget. It can be run with an hand winch or automation. I will leave the details of this to others since I have not tried this method yet. I have seen a number of systems in use and in articles so their are lots of resources out there. <br><br><br><br>Greg Bierly<br>Performing Arts Center Manager<br>Hempfield High School<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 13:53:54 +0000 (UTC)<br>From: Joe D <jdunfee12@yahoo.com><br>To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft@theatrical.net><br>Subject: Re: [SML] Tracking Scenery on a Budget<br>Message-ID: <865109529.504348.1478613234704@mail.yahoo.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>If the weight is not too much, using gliders are cheaper than using wheels. <br><br>-joe<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 08:32:08 -0800<br>From: Jon Lagerquist <jon@lagerquist.com><br>To: stagecraft@theatrical.net<br>Subject: Re: [SML] Tracking Scenery on a Budget<br>Message-ID: <0dbba55c-f303-3232-2d1a-a5d0b3821346@lagerquist.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed<br><br>We are well in the third decade of having stage hands behind the scenery <br>for A Christmas Carol. It works well, is highly adaptable, the <br>programing time is generally short.<br><br>As far as tracks, if you need tracks, stage hands may reduce that need, <br>a groove in the floor, a pair of 1x pieces on the floor with bevels, a <br>run of angle iron all work. We generally winch units in a 3/4" sub floor <br>and a 1/4" show deck. You can track through curves as well.<br><br>After standing behind the scenery and push sticks you move to winches. A <br>rope rigged like an inverted traveler track will work, hand cranked <br>winches give you the option of other cables to connect to the unit. <br>These can be shop built and it is worth looking into the rent/borrow <br>options. Once you move to motors the cost goes up for both parts and <br>control and safety.<br><br><br>On 11/7/2016 7:26 PM, JIM VOGEL via Stagecraft wrote:<br>> High school students as stagehands pushing the scenery might be the least expensive.<br>><br>> Sent from my iPad<br>><br>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 20:07, Mark S. Eccleston via Stagecraft <stagecraft@theatrical.net> wrote:<br>>><br>>> I'm designing some scenery for a high school production of Disney's Little<br>>> Mermaid and am considering tracking most of the scenery on and off the<br>>> stage. In my mind I'd like to use multiple tracks in order to track something<br>>> off right and on left and vice versa. Maybe four to six track systems in<br>>> all.<br>>><br>>> I think I can figure out the tracks, but coming up with an economical way<br>>> to drive the scenery is what I'm struggling with. I would imagine that<br>>> some type of manual winch systems would be the most economical.<br>>><br>>> Anyone have a design for something along those lines they can send me?<br>>> Another idea? I have several months before I have to put this together so I<br>>> have time to get some things built, etc.<br>>><br>>> As I said in the title, there is of course the budget to consider.<br>>><br>>> Thanks in advance!<br>>> Mark S. Eccleston<br>>> 256-694-8575<br>>> Huntsville, AL<br>>><br>>><br>>> ____________________________________________________________<br>>> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/><br>>> Stagecraft mailing list<br>>> Stagecraft@theatrical.net<br>>> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net<br>><br>> ____________________________________________________________<br>> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/><br>> Stagecraft mailing list<br>> Stagecraft@theatrical.net<br>> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net<br>><br><br>-- <br>Jon Lagerquist<br>--<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Stagecraft mailing list<br>Stagecraft@theatrical.net<br>http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of Stagecraft Digest, Vol 27, Issue 7<br>*****************************************<br></body></html>