<div dir="ltr">Dear Paul,<div>Also consider the 'lever' effect. a small shaking on the bottom is amplified by a 8' lever to the top. You don't want apprehensive actors, even if they are safe. Casters with little or no 'play' can help with this.</div><div>/s/ Richard</div><div>_________</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Paul Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:panderson@hope.edu" target="_blank">panderson@hope.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I have not looked at steel per se. Cost is of course always a factor as well as weight and setup speed. I'm not sure that I need to get that heavy duty. Only the one corner with the scrim is really visible. I think the rest can be masked pretty well so that I can put all the x-bracing I need in those locations.<div><br></div><div>I am mostly wondering what options are for this sort of thing using wood for the most part. As I think I mentioned earlier I could do gates, stud walls, some of my masking walls could be built heavy enough to be load bearing. </div><div><br></div><div>I could find out where festival is and check load in limitations and possibly make a steel structured wagon that is welded for a portion of it. If there is room for load in though doors, etc. that could be made with lift jacks or use a pallet jack to move and it becomes my main anchor point. Or as you say a bolt together. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the thoughts.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Paul</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Richard Niederberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ladesigners@gmail.com" target="_blank">ladesigners@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear Paul,<div>Watch out for torsion forces - make sure that an actor on the upper deck does not move in a way that causes a twisting of that deck [action/reaction] in relation to the lower deck. Have you considered 4" steel tubing, steel corner, top, and bottom (caster) plates, and large diameter hardened bolts, nuts and star washers? If you didn't have to break down your 8' cube, I'd assemble it using a certified welder.</div><div>/s/ Richard</div><div>_________</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-7501291327057269467h5">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Paul Anderson via Stagecraft <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-7501291327057269467h5"><div dir="ltr">2- 4 x 8 and 2-4 x 6 platforms so 8 feet by 14 feet.<div><br></div><div>One 4x8 gets a trap door of about 2' x 2'.</div><div><br></div><div>Not sure if I can attach jpgs or not or I could show you what I'm up against.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks everyone for responses. Still pondering options.</div><span class="m_-7501291327057269467m_-315993300185689847HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Paul </div></font></span></div><div class="m_-7501291327057269467m_-315993300185689847HOEnZb"><div class="m_-7501291327057269467m_-315993300185689847h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 11:24 AM, dale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dale@cybercom.net" target="_blank">dale@cybercom.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<div>How large is the upper platform? Is it free standing or is there another set piece attached to it?</div><div><br></div><div>The thought I had is you build the upper platform with sockets where you slide in appropriately long pieces of schedule 40 inch and a half pipes as the legs. </div><div><br></div><div>The bottoms of the pipes are screwed into flanges which are firmly attached to a low platform with the same footprint as the upper. Some X bracing or a more solid wall unit bolts into the back face and one of the side faces to provide stability. </div><div><br></div><div>I haven't worked out the math to be sure, but pipes on the four corners should hold weight of platform plus one actor. If the actor is dancing or there are more than one of them, then add more vertical pipes. </div><div>Assembly and disassembly would want some kind of lift to tip the thing upright. And whatever the tipping axis is should have additional X bracing to resist the twisting and racking of the tipping up. </div><div><br></div><div>For extra points, design into the underside of the upper platform storage pockets for the pipe and X braces. The bottom sheet can strap to the upper platform to make a nice truck friendly unit. Add a couple of casters to make it easier to roll onto the truck. Probably on the skinny edge so it can just roll on and get strapped to the wall of the truck. </div><div><br></div><div>Dale</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="m_-7501291327057269467m_-315993300185689847m_-7803081418433394824m_-7124206167033584093composer_signature"><div style="font-size:88%;color:#364f67" dir="auto">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><span><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Paul Anderson via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> <br></span><span>Date: 2/8/17 09:38 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: Stagecraft Mailing list <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> <br>Cc: Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:panderson@hope.edu" target="_blank">panderson@hope.edu</a>> <br></span><span>Subject: [SML] Platforming to go on the road <br><br><div dir="ltr">I work for a small 4 year college and basically build scenery that sits on the stage till strike. The only shows I've built for packing in a truck were already designed with that in mind. <div><br></div><div>Our current production is being entered for ACTF participation and is being designed by what are basically not designers. So far they have a platform setup that is 8 feet in the air. The thought of raising heavy platforms that high scares me.</div><div><br></div><div>Not having done this I'm not sure what my options are. One thought I suppose is that there could be some sort of legging system put on each platform while upside down, then roll those assemblies upright one at a time and tie together. Some sort of folding gate legs and simple plywood tops instead of framed platforms is something I've also seen done.</div><div><br></div><div>There is some masking underneath which could be load bearing. But one corner is to be black scrim with some action to be revealed under the platform. And one platform has to have a trap to get into this underneath playing area.</div><div><br></div><div>Any suggestions welcome.<br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_-7501291327057269467m_-315993300185689847m_-7803081418433394824m_-7124206167033584093gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Paul Anderson<br>Technical Director for Theater<br>Hope College<br>Holland, MI<br><a href="tel:(616)%20395-7104" value="+16163957104" target="_blank">616-395-7104</a></div>
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