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    <p>OSHA should absolutely be involved in the safety of a university
      shop, because surely any university shop will have some staff or
      faculty member supervising it .  <br>
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    <p>Shops used by students need close supervision and attention to
      safety rules ,etc,  specifically BECAUSE the users are not skilled
      and experienced people, but that is the entire point of an
      educational institution and if someone thinks students cannot do
      the work necessary to become competent they are missing the point
      of the place they work.  And if someone has written OSHA rules
      that encourage this, they need to be re-written.</p>
    <p>Stuart</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/12/2019 6:19 PM, Mike Katz via
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        <div dir="ltr">Another Point on this thread,  OSHA  is looking
          at student shops as well, After the death of a student a few
          years ago in a Yale  machine shop, Osha started an
          investigation even though it was a student and not an
          employee. IIRC the said that the shop was also used by
          employees and therefore they had jurisdiction. 
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            <div>Mike<br clear="all">
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                  data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Michael Katz<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 4:20
            PM Stuart Wheaton via Stagecraft <<a
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              <p>Replying to my own post...  <br>
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              <p>Perhaps you need to recharacterize the theate as a
                teaching laboratory for the theatrical arts  Or
                similar.  In educational terms it is no different from a
                sculpture studio or a chemistry laboratory.  <br>
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              <p>By concretely tying it to an educational mission to
                create employment - ready graduates of a technical
                theatre program instead of as a wood and metal working
                shop supporting the theatre product you might get the
                facilities person to see the light.</p>
              <p>Stuart<br>
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