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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Before I start cutting different lengths of rope off the spool to see how much I need to make the loop, any thoughts of how much rope should I start with?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">10’ loops to < 5’ which seems short in my mind.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">20’ loops to < 10’ which after the joining knot at the tails, pluss the prussic, still seems long.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">13 – 15’??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Oh, I had a look today, and the operating line is a black twisted rope (not a smooth “modern” climbing style of rope). Does that make a difference when using a snub knot?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I know there is the manufacturer’s binder in the venue which will have a bunch of info I need to read. I just haven’t got there yet, and am looking further out to make plans to make our professional upgrades
to the space.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yes, zat helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Andrew M. Riter</span></b><span style="color:#1F497D">
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</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Assistant Technical Director, Head Lighting Technician</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Phone 604 822 2372</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces@theatrical.net> <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Bill Sapsis via Stagecraft<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft@theatrical.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Bill Sapsis <bill@sapsis-rigging.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SML] Fly system SWP, SOPs, P&P?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Andrew wrote, in part…</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"> “PS: what’s preferred for out of balance lineset while loading for tall set pieces or soft goods:
snub line, twists, or Uncle Benny? I think I know the Hive’s answer, but just to confirm….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Options 2 and 3 put too much wrong tension on the floating kick block, yes??”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">While the concerns over a failure in the floor block guide tracks or guide shoes, and even more compelling reason to use a snub knot is focus. Having a lineset
out of balance is a dangerous condition and the flyperson needs to have a clear focus on what’s going on with the lineset. By its very nature, the Uncle Benny (aka line lok, uncle buddy and a host of other names) is difficult to install and even more to remove.
The technicians focus tends to be on trying to keep the uncle benny from swinging up and hitting them in the face. Meanwhile, the lineset is a few hundred pounds out of balance and its operating line wants to move. Fast. If you’re messing with the uncle
benny you may lose the grip on the operating line and then all hell breaks loose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Snubknots are easy. They can be installed and removed blindfolded (I’m not suggesting you do this, however) and allows the technician to maintain focus where
it belongs. On the operating rope.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">And yeah, there’s the floor block pulling out of the guide tracks and hitting you in the shin. Or worse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Zat help?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Bill <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="mailto:bill@sapsis-rigging.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">bill@sapsis-rigging.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="http://sapsis-rigging.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://sapsis-rigging.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">+1.267.278.4561 mobile
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft-bounces@theatrical.net">stagecraft-bounces@theatrical.net</a>> on behalf of "<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>"
<<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:misswisc@aol.com">misswisc@aol.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:misswisc@aol.com">misswisc@aol.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 5:59 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:misswisc@aol.com">misswisc@aol.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:misswisc@aol.com">misswisc@aol.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [SML] Fly system SWP, SOPs, P&P?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Unkle Bill’s 21st Century Rigging book has a lot of that. And snub knot preferred.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Kristi R-C<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Riter, Andrew via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
To: 'Stagecraft Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
Cc: Riter, Andrew <<a href="mailto:andrew.riter@ubc.ca">andrew.riter@ubc.ca</a>><br>
Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 3:46 pm<br>
Subject: [SML] Fly system SWP, SOPs, P&P?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Recently my worksite has been given managerial control over a 100 year old (renovated 10 years ago) small proscenium house. It’s got 38 fly lines on 8” centres.
Single purchase.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Part of my to do list is to create the paperwork around the safe operation and training of staff and university students.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Rather than start from scratch (I last ran flies 20 years ago before this job), I’m hoping to get some documents I can crib from. The University has its own
template files, I’m looking for sources of the language, risk matrix, things to include etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">PS: what’s preferred for out of balance lineset while loading for tall set pieces or soft goods: snub line, twists, or Uncle Benny? I think I know the Hive’s
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Options 2 and 3 put too much wrong tension on the floating kick block, yes??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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