<div dir="auto">Jon - I think any size but definitely to 50' or taller by any length. I specified them with pipe pocket with gaps win pocket where pipes join and a skirt or flap that is just a little longer than pocket. Edges are a vinyl hem with grommets. I don't think they can be beat for durability, much less fragile than leno or muslin, easy to clean, and easy to repair a tear. And permanently flame retardant. Probably 2 to 2 1/2 times cost of leno, but I've been out of checking prices for several years. Not something I've kept up on in retirement.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best wishes</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 12:57 PM Richard Niederberg via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I've had good luck with a dark blue scrim hanging in front of a sky blue cyc with #8 Jack Chain in the lower pocket for weight so it hangs straight on a curved track.<div>/s/ Richard</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 8:52 AM David Bowman via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know it would be more pricey, but we’ve (mostly) gotten away from using a tradition muslin (or similar) cyc and now almost always just use our Rosco Twin-White RP (purchased from Rosebrand, but I don’t recall the cost) as a cyc surface.
Because it’s a Twin-White, it works for both front and rear whether it’s lighting or projections, it picks-up and transmits the light really well. We have the ability via ties on the sides, but have not found a need to stretch it in any way, other than a bottom
pipe. We did find that one should remove the bottom pipe when not in use as the RP material has “fused” itself to the pipe we have in there, and we are terrified of tearing the goods, so it now has a “permanent” bottom pipe. Since it always stays in the tower,
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<p class="MsoNormal">Only downside is you for sure don’t want to fold it unless you have a ton of time to let it hang and stretch the creases/wrinkles back out. Ours is always on a lineset in the fly tower, even if it’s not in a show…..<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Behalf Of </b>George Davidson via Stagecraft<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 28, 2021 10:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> George Davidson <<a href="mailto:george@georgedavidson.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">george@georgedavidson.ca</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SML] We need a new cyc<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bills Suggestion of a truss is great for a full frame, you can even look at the cheaper Global Truss I beam truss as it takes up less space<br>
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I have always had good luck with just using a bottom pipe, Rigid conduit works well as it comes in 10 ft lengths and comes pre threaded with couplers<br>
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1/2 in is usually enough, if you go too heavy the centre of the bottom of the cyc will stretch and sag, for a new cyc, you want the centre to bow up slightly so that it has somewhere to settle as the fabric stretches, if your looking for a pipe for a scrim,
i prefer PVC pipe as its lighter<br>
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When picking materials, there are a few things to consider, front or rear projection, seamed or seamless and what its used for<br>
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for cyc lights, nothing catches the light like a cotton cyc, its the little threads on the surface, PVC often reflects more which may or may not be an issue, if you take your cyc down or have it on a track, PVC and Polyester tend to get fold creases, IFR fabrics
are not as soft (lighting wise) but can be sharper for projections, seamed cycs are not as nice for rear projection, but some seams are invisable<u></u><u></u></p>
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