<div dir="auto">I'll second that motion.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 5:30 PM Bill Sapsis via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Would now be a good time to start talking about Vo-Tech programs for technical theatre?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft-bounces@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft-bounces@theatrical.net</a>> on behalf of "<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:11 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jon Ares <<a href="mailto:jonares@arescreative.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jonares@arescreative.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [SML] Colleges and the arts<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, fewer people going to college (right away), yes (for a variety of reasons), but also fewer people doing the "go to a distant college, live on campus, and immerse in the campus culture." Many are still getting degrees, but not in the
 "traditional," on-campus way.  Also, many have realized "Prestigious U" doesn't always translate to Prestigious Pay.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 12:37 PM Bill Conner via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, I went to a NY state school, and it's clear which party is in power - I believe the Dems overwhelming control all branches of state government. Guessing not what you thought.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't know exact numbers but this particular college was running like a $10m deficit for some years with a total budget of $25m or so.  Their also cutting iirc physics, computer science, Spanish, .... a total of 14 programs.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At least 2 other colleges that closed their doors in NY this year and more expected.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's not so much political as financial and fewer people going to college.  Such a mistake - in hindsight - to have eliminated vocational ed at the high school level and tell everyone to go to college.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 1:49 PM Phil Johnson via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It would be interesting but not surprising to see what political party is in power in those states where arts are being chopped. (Probably not surprising though)<br>
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