<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">That doesn’t seem to matter. The Potsdam crisis in NY shows that. The crisis for SUNY-Potsdam, like nearly all the campuses, has been growing for at least two decades. During that time it has been a blue state. There’s much more to the problem than the party in power at least here. More problem lies within the SUNY overall administration and its funding of the system campuses. <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 24, 2023, at 5:10 PM, Jon Ares via Stagecraft <stagecraft@theatrical.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Well, fewer people going to college (right away), yes (for a variety of reasons), but also fewer people doing the "go to a distant college, live on campus, and immerse in the campus culture." Many are still getting degrees, but not in the "traditional," on-campus way. Also, many have realized "Prestigious U" doesn't always translate to Prestigious Pay.<div><br></div><div> - Jon</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 12:37 PM Bill Conner via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Well, I went to a NY state school, and it's clear which party is in power - I believe the Dems overwhelming control all branches of state government. Guessing not what you thought.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don't know exact numbers but this particular college was running like a $10m deficit for some years with a total budget of $25m or so. Their also cutting iirc physics, computer science, Spanish, .... a total of 14 programs.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">At least 2 other colleges that closed their doors in NY this year and more expected.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It's not so much political as financial and fewer people going to college. Such a mistake - in hindsight - to have eliminated vocational ed at the high school level and tell everyone to go to college.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 1:49 PM Phil Johnson via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" target="_blank">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">It would be interesting but not surprising to see what political party is in power in those states where arts are being chopped. (Probably not surprising though)<br>
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