<div dir="auto">Of course, dovetail this with the earlier thread concerning the current trend in colleges & universities to eliminate or reduce fine arts programs and this may be the real explanation for the perceived lagging salaries in educational theatre. Many of these institutions do not value what we do for our students and institution. They are run by bean counters who create spreadsheets that fail to account for half of the service we render and, therefore, judge the fine arts to be unprofitable and , consequently, disposable.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 3:58 AM Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">That’s a good analogy because the time it takes to study to become a corporate pilot and to become competent in tech theater are similar. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I help admin a Facebook group for technical theater educators and we often will help educate posting folks about what the going rate is for a position so they can take it back to their college HR department, along with a list of failed searches to help them create a package someone will want to apply for. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">We’ve had union contracts where the employer decided to offer to raise the rates because the union couldn’t fill the call at amount that had been negotiated. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Kristi RC</div><div><br></div>
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<p id="m_2306077046825810112ydpeb4f581cyiv6138478263reply-intro">It seems like there's always a lag for pay rates to adjust to market conditions. I would assume that larger employers will have more institutional momentum and proportionally longer lag times. </p>
<p>As an example, a good friend of mine is an up-and-coming pilot. The shortage of airliner pilots has been coming for some time, and has finally started having a real effect on the industry now that it's back to pre-pandemic levels of ticket sales. However, the airlines haven't really changed their compensation, benefits, or hiring practices to attract more people to get into aviation. They're only now just starting to talk about changes. It'll take years to come to fruition.</p>
<p>Granted, a big chunk of the hurdles are bureaucratic from the FAA, but that's a different discussion (speaking as someone who seriously looked into becoming a pilot many years ago, but quickly realized that I didn't have the money to play in that field). *cue sad trombone*</p>
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<div>Interesting, because the educational salaries I'm seeing feel consistently low for the qualifications they ask for. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 19:18 Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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