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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Steve Shelly provided a clue:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The symbols are built with their own Class and Layer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">First insertion of that symbol creates the Class and Layer, BUT DOESN’T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE THAT CLASS / LAYER VISIBLE. All good now (except I THINK there is
a toggle for that, but I don’t know where that is hidden (Show Layers/Classes when Created).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">( I learn a long time ago that newly created layers don’t show up in Saved Views, so I need to edit the View each time. OK (sort of, but I learned that).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Andrew M. Riter</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">
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</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Chan Centre
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</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Phone 604 822 2372</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:andrew.riter@ubc.ca"><span style="color:#1F497D">andrew.riter@ubc.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces@theatrical.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Ares via Stagecraft<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft@theatrical.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jon Ares <jonares@arescreative.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SML] VW Objects not displaying after insertion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:#FFECB3">[<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">CAUTION:</span></strong> Non-UBC Email]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Andrew, did you get any response on this? I have had this happen in the past as well, and somehow it's either corrected itself, or I jostled something, and it came back to
life, but I have no idea what I did.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I've got a (similar? related?) problem with one plot (currently in VW2024) - I have two fixtures in use that I can't find anywhere on the plot/file. I've looked through every
layer, every class... nothing. The paperwork lists them, and with correct data, but i just can't find the fixtures - like their hidden. Their brethren show just fine, it's just two fixtures... and so your post reminded me that maybe they're suffering from
the same affliction....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 3:12 PM Riter, Andrew via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi everyone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Basic VW question here:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(VW 2018)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Occasional user, usually to only update existing venue plots.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sometimes I go to insert an Object from the Resource Browser. The symbol is good, used for years.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I double click it, and cursor over to the drawing page. The cursor looks normal, but no wire frame.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I click to insert it, click again with the correct rotation. But the object doesn’t appear.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I can drag a box around it, and the handles appear at the corners of the Object, the Object Info box shows me I’ve selected the Object, but the Object doesn’t show up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It’s not under a fill. I’m trying to insert it onto Layer #1<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’m missing something simple I’m sure.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Any help greatly appreciated<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Andrew M. Riter</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt"> <br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Assistant Technical Director, Head Lighting Technician</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Chan Centre for the Performing Arts</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The University of British Columbia | Vancouver Campus</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">6265 Crescent Road | Vancouver BC | V6T 1Z1 Canada</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Phone 604 822 2372</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:andrew.riter@ubc.ca" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">andrew.riter@ubc.ca</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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