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    <p>We have used the Air Pux brake system on a lot of scenery.  They
      are great, almost zero maintenance, reliable.  Yes they have a
      pretty good price tag, but they are infinitely re-useable and the
      systems are tight, no air leaking.  <br>
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      As to whether you go brake or caster, which failure mode can you
      live with?    Something that moves when it shouldn't or something
      that you can't move when you need it to? Also I think about what
      percent of the time it would need air pressure compared to the
      amount of time it wouldn't.<br>
      <br>
      Muffler systems are quite good, so you won't hear a lot of air,
      but it often takes more air pressure to lift a heavy unit onto
      it's wheels than it takes to push a rubber pad against the floor
      hard enough to hold it still.  So if you move something a lot, or
      it is very big or heavy, you either need a bigger tank, or brakes.</p>
    <p>Stuart<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/5/2024 10:58 PM, Greg Bierly via
      Stagecraft wrote:<br>
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      Rose Brand sells just such an item but very expensive.
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      <div>Our first round of air lift casters were octagonal boxes made
        out of 2x6 framing with some surplus 1.25” plywood sandwiching
        small wagon type inner tubes.  They worked but were large and
        clunky.  We waxed the moving parts to keep them from binding and
        used triple swivel casters. </div>
      <div>I found any time you are lifting like this, triple swivels
        work the best otherwise you tend to side load a standard single
        swivel.  </div>
      <div>Our next set used FABCO pancake cylinders to push the triple
        swivels down.  Eventually we used spring return cylinders
        eliminating duplicate air lines to retract the casters.  </div>
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      <div>I had stumbled onto a pneumatic locking caster being sold by
        Spoon Group a number of years ago at USITT.  I was able to
        reverse engineer them and make my own for about 1/2 the price.
         They are based on the 4” Cartmaster Caster sold by Rose Brand.</div>
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        <div style="display: block;">We CNC’ed the fitting to hold the
          caster and include a low profile pancake cylinder.  They work
          very well on smaller scenery.  </div>
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        <div style="display: block;">I have never seen the Spoon Group
          caster for sale again (thus the reverse engineering) I did
          find the patent for them and have considered reaching out and
          seeing if they are for sale anywhere.  I feel every theater
          should have a dozen in their stock as useful as they are.  </div>
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            <div>Greg Bierly</div>
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          <div>On Aug 5, 2024, at 5:01 PM, Jon Ares via Stagecraft
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net"><stagecraft@theatrical.net></a> wrote:</div>
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            <div>Has anyone tried building a system using something like
              these,<br>
              commonly available today?<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.amazon.com/IMPROVED-Commercial-Professional-Alignment-Inflatable/dp/B09F34QGB6/">https://www.amazon.com/IMPROVED-Commercial-Professional-Alignment-Inflatable/dp/B09F34QGB6/</a></div>
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