<div dir="auto"><div>Thank you all for comments. I didn't know how this compared but seems not too bad. Cost of living there seems to be around 92% of national average (and Wisconsin 103%).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">One of a very few projects I've stayed in touch with over the years. They had a staff of 5 at one time, just for the hs theatre. Nice folks. </div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Bill Conner Fellow of the ASTC</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 3:40 AM Mick Alderson via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">The bottom of that range is about what I was making when I retired in 2019 from the Univ of Wis system after thirty years. Salaries were low, but the kicker was the included benefits. Those made it worth while. I was lucky. For the first 9 years I was TD/designer at a 2 year UW Campus at 3/4 time. I settled for the first offered salary, because I got full bennies for health insurance. That was important because I had a wife and two kids to take care of. The insurance was as important as the salary. I could supplement my income by working with my IATSE Local. I had the security of a year-to-year position instead of the gig-to-gig life my fellow IA members lived. The steady salary meant I could get a mortgage on a fixer-upper that needed a LOT of work. I put a lot of sweat-equity into that house, but nothing my theatre training couldn't handle. It paid for the next house.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Then I was hired full-time at a four year UW campus (salary, no overtime) for 21 years. I was the lowest paid person in the department, and retired at 45k for salary (60 hour weeks and no overtime). BUT in the mean time I had a gold-plated insurance for my kids, and I lucked into the only state retirement system that was in the black (the Wisconsin Retirement System cannot be raided by the governor because it is the only state retirement separate from the stage government). AND I leveraged that fix-upper into the home I live in now. It's an old farmhouse, older and it needed work, but the mortgage was paid off before I retired. Between Social Security and my state retirement, I'm living on about what I did when I retired, but with fewer expenses.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Point is, don't just look at the immediate salary. Decide what is important to you long term. I chose security and bennies over a gig to gig income that may or may not have been more lucrative. I lucked out. I hope you can do the same.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What concerns me is that when there were 32 theaters in the Univ of Wisconsin system in 1986 we are down to maybe a half dozen. There are a lot fewer positions or there than there use to be. I was in the right place at the right time. Are you?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Mick Alderson<br>Stagehand<br>IATSE Local 470</div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Retired TD, UW Oshkosh Theater (that no longer exists)</div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Subject: Re: [SML] HS TD job<br>
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Many of the secretaries/admin assistants were not making the $45-70k range they are offering for this position. After 25 years, my base was at the top of that range but I did receive OT on top of that. Kind of hard to judge without researching cost of living in Hardin County. My replacement?s base is below that range and that is about average for our area for a starting FT HS TD. (South Central PA)<br>
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> On Dec 18, 2025, at 4:38 PM, Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <<a href="mailto:stagecraft@theatrical.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">stagecraft@theatrical.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Yeah - that salary is for clerical work. I?m seeing $75K-90K for HS technical theater folks who are FT. <br>
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