[SML] Across the pond

Thu Nov 20 22:19:12 UTC 2014

Congratulations, Marty. Enjoy your new adventure!

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Martin Petlock via Stagecraft
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> Well gang here I am posting from Bath about 5 minute walk from Theatre Royal. Weather chilly (after  40 yrs in Florida) but nice. Strongbow called me home.
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> On Nov 20, 2014, at 20:00, stagecraft-request at theatrical.net wrote:
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>>   1. Re:  Tele-Q & Practical Phones (Joe Wilson)
>>   2. Re:  Friendly Bell (Joe Wilson)
>>   3. Re:  Tele-Q & Practical Phones (e-mail frank.wood95)
>>   4. Re:  Tele-Q & Practical Phones (Nigel Worsley)
>>   5.  iOS 8 wallpaper (Jerry Durand)
>>   6. Re:  Tele-Q & Practical Phones (Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center)
>>   7. Re:  iOS 8 wallpaper (Jerry Durand)
>>   8. Re:  University of Wismar (Scott R. Henkels)
>>   9. Re:  OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting    and
>>      stagecraft" (Jacqueline Haney)
>>  10. Re:  OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting    and
>>      stagecraft" (Jacqueline Haney)
>>  11. Re:  Tele-Q & Practical Phones (Joe Dunfee)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:08:21 -0500
>> From: Joe Wilson <faderjockey at gmail.com>
>> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
>> Message-ID:
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>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Dorian Kelly via Stagecraft
>> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>> I thought the teleQ provided the line power as well as the ring power, no?
>>
>> No, TeleQ only supplies ringing voltage.  It turns off when you
>> release the button.
>>
>> I wonder if you could use a sound console's phantom power supply to
>> supply the talk voltage... hmmmm.
>>
>> ~joe
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:27:54 -0500
>> From: Joe Wilson <faderjockey at gmail.com>
>> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] Friendly Bell
>> Message-ID:
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>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jon Ares via Stagecraft
>> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>> Yeah, I don't understand why Scott Joplin music brings all the boys (and
>>> girls) to the yard.....
>>
>> Late to the party, but NPR had an article that actually answered that question:
>>
>> http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/05/11/310708342/recall-that-ice-cream-truck-song-we-have-unpleasant-news-for-you
>>
>> ~joe
>> _________________________
>> Joe Wilson, ATD/Sound
>> Indian River State College
>>
>> Adding one more "me too" to the
>> collective internet consciousness.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 23:44:43 +0000
>> From: "e-mail frank.wood95" <frank.wood95 at ntlworld.com>
>> To: Joe Wilson <faderjockey at gmail.com>,    Stagecraft Mailing List
>>    <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
>> Message-ID:
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>> Two problems here. First, while phantom power is at about the right
>> voltage, it comes between both signal legs and ground. This would need
>> a special adapter in an XLR connector. If you have a T-power option,
>> as used by some Sennheiser microphones, this would need no special
>> adapter, provided that the polarity was correct.
>>
>> Second, I doubt that it would supply sufficient curent for a
>> telephone. Phantom power for microphones is usually limited to 10mA or
>> so. Telephones still meet very old-fashioned standards, and sometimes
>> expect to see big relays across the line. I would think that 100mA
>> would be typical.
>>
>> On 19 November 2014 21:08, Joe Wilson via Stagecraft
>> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Dorian Kelly via Stagecraft
>>> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>>> I thought the teleQ provided the line power as well as the ring power, no?
>>>
>>> No, TeleQ only supplies ringing voltage.  It turns off when you
>>> release the button.
>>>
>>> I wonder if you could use a sound console's phantom power supply to
>>> supply the talk voltage... hmmmm.
>>>
>>> ~joe
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Frank Wood
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:11:07 +0000
>> From: Nigel Worsley <niglew at googlemail.com>
>> To: "e-mail frank.wood95" <frank.wood95 at ntlworld.com>,    Stagecraft
>>    Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
>> Message-ID:
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>> Frank Wood wrote:
>>> Telephones still meet very old-fashioned standards, and sometimes
>>> expect to see big relays across the line. I would think that 100mA
>>> would be typical.
>>
>> Electronic exchanges typically feed the line with a constant current
>> of 25mA, and because it is considered a reasonable scenario that two
>> handsets will be lifted at the same time ( eg. for transferring a call
>> by shouting at someone else in the house to pick up the other phone )
>> it is a requirement for phones to function correctly on 12.5mA in the
>> UK, and similar specifications exist in most other countries.
>>
>> Much older telephones have similar characteristics, as the 50V feed
>> voltage and much of the sometimes very long wiring hasn't changed over
>> the years.
>>
>> Nigel Worsley
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:51:56 -0800
>> From: Jerry Durand <jdurand at interstellar.com>
>> To: Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: [SML] iOS 8 wallpaper
>> Message-ID: <546D574C.50205 at interstellar.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Is there a way to turn off the movement of the wallpaper when the iPad
>> is tilted?  I have to use one for a client's project and find it
>> annoying.  Maybe just turn off the wallpaper altogether?
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
>> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
>> Skype:  jerrydurand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:52:55 -0800
>> From: "Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center"
>>    <admin at mtangelperformingarts.com>
>> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
>> Message-ID: <546D5787.3080401 at mtangelperformingarts.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> On 11/19/2014 5:11 PM, Nigel Worsley via Stagecraft wrote:
>>> Frank Wood wrote:
>>>> Telephones still meet very old-fashioned standards, and sometimes
>>>> expect to see big relays across the line. I would think that 100mA
>>>> would be typical.
>>>
>>> Electronic exchanges typically feed the line with a constant current
>>> of 25mA, and because it is considered a reasonable scenario that two
>>> handsets will be lifted at the same time ( eg. for transferring a call
>>> by shouting at someone else in the house to pick up the other phone )
>>> it is a requirement for phones to function correctly on 12.5mA in the
>>> UK, and similar specifications exist in most other countries.
>>>
>>> Much older telephones have similar characteristics, as the 50V feed
>>> voltage and much of the sometimes very long wiring hasn't changed over
>>> the years.
>>>
>>> Nigel Worsley
>>
>> I think what y'all need for getting a live phone line from point A to
>> point B is what's called a 'telephone line simulator'. We used one long
>> ago in developing a modem product and the reasonably good ones simulate
>> a telephone central office and generate all the voltages and tones
>> really well.
>>
>> As I recall, we had a TLS-2 from Teltone, but they are now ridiculously
>> expensive.
>>
>> I have not tried these but have purchased other stuff from this seller
>> and had no problems. see <http://www.sandman.com/simulator.html>
>>
>> Carla
>>
>> Feds have looked into our phone records, computers and e-mails. When did
>> the government suddenly become our psycho ex-lover?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:02:35 -0800
>> From: Jerry Durand <jdurand at interstellar.com>
>> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] iOS 8 wallpaper
>> Message-ID: <546D59CB.6030701 at interstellar.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>
>> Just found out how...also extends battery life turning it off.  Under
>> Accessibility turn on REDUCE MOTION.  No screen jitter and longer run
>> time.  Double bonus.
>>
>> On 11/19/2014 06:51 PM, Jerry Durand via Stagecraft wrote:
>>> Is there a way to turn off the movement of the wallpaper when the iPad
>>> is tilted?  I have to use one for a client's project and find it
>>> annoying.  Maybe just turn off the wallpaper altogether?
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
>> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
>> Skype:  jerrydurand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:49:16 +0000
>> From: "Scott R. Henkels" <henkelssr at hotmail.com>
>> To: "stagecraft at theatrical.net" <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] University of Wismar
>> Message-ID: <BLU171-W108571A02440459C145A2F8BC760 at phx.gbl>
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>>
>> Nate
>> Have you talked with Victor En Yu Tan at UMKC?
>>
>> Scott Henkels
>> UMKC TD alumn
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Jacqueline Haney <jacki14fr at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Scott C. Parker" <scparker at gmail.com>,    Stagecraft Mailing List
>>    <stagecraft at theatrical.net>,    Stagecraft Mailing List
>>    <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting
>>    and    stagecraft"
>> Message-ID:
>>    <7534607.1034772.1416505641080.JavaMail.yahoo at jws10747.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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>> My day job is with an energy consultant.? He recently was solicited (vigorously) by phone to pay a significant amount of money to be listed in a directory of "expert witnesses" available to insurance companies.??? Especially if it was through Linked In, I suspect this is the same sort of useless "service".
>> Jacqueline Haney
>>
>>
>>      From: Scott C. Parker via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:04 PM
>> Subject: [SML] OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting and stagecraft"
>>
>> I got this email via LinkedIn asking for info about lighting and stagecraft. Supposedly anyway. They say they are an information company, who specialize in personal and business investigations.?
>> "The reason I am contacting you today is because you are a professional in a field in which I am researching at this time. In order to successfully help our clients, I need to be familiar with all aspects of each particular case. This is why I am reaching out to you."
>> Has anyone gotten these types of things before? Seems like a private investigation firm building a case about someone/something.
>> --?
>> Scott C. Parker
>> Lighting Designer USA829 ? http://scpld.com/ Studio 212-533-3430 ?Cell 718-757-6661
>> http://twitter.com/stageseminars ? https://www.linkedin.com/in/lightingdesigner
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Jacqueline Haney <jacki14fr at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Scott C. Parker" <scparker at gmail.com>,    Stagecraft Mailing List
>>    <stagecraft at theatrical.net>,    Stagecraft Mailing List
>>    <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting
>>    and    stagecraft"
>> Message-ID:
>>    <7534607.1034772.1416505641080.JavaMail.yahoo at jws10747.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>> My day job is with an energy consultant.? He recently was solicited (vigorously) by phone to pay a significant amount of money to be listed in a directory of "expert witnesses" available to insurance companies.??? Especially if it was through Linked In, I suspect this is the same sort of useless "service".
>> Jacqueline Haney
>>
>>
>>      From: Scott C. Parker via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:04 PM
>> Subject: [SML] OT: Strange email "Help with research on lighting and stagecraft"
>>
>> I got this email via LinkedIn asking for info about lighting and stagecraft. Supposedly anyway. They say they are an information company, who specialize in personal and business investigations.?
>> "The reason I am contacting you today is because you are a professional in a field in which I am researching at this time. In order to successfully help our clients, I need to be familiar with all aspects of each particular case. This is why I am reaching out to you."
>> Has anyone gotten these types of things before? Seems like a private investigation firm building a case about someone/something.
>> --?
>> Scott C. Parker
>> Lighting Designer USA829 ? http://scpld.com/ Studio 212-533-3430 ?Cell 718-757-6661
>> http://twitter.com/stageseminars ? https://www.linkedin.com/in/lightingdesigner
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:08:26 -0500
>> From: "Joe Dunfee" <joe at dunfee.com>
>> To: <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> Subject: Re: [SML] Tele-Q & Practical Phones
>> Message-ID: <001b01d004f5$5e183dd0$1a48b970$@dunfee.com>
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>> I think the REALLY old fashioned phones, where you turn a crank to ring the
>> operator, were compatible with the later ringing phones, in terms of
>> voltage.  So, if you had one of those, you make another phone ring by just
>> wiring them together.
>>
>> However, I only recall seeing the regular crank phones with separate mic's
>> and speakers. But, I vaguely recall seeing WW2 era field phones in a movie
>> that had a single hand-set, and also used a crank to ring the other phone.
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>>
>>
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