[SML] A question about scissor lift hour meters
Dale Farmer
dale at cybercom.net
Sun Dec 6 14:41:41 UTC 2015
On 12/6/2015 2:15 AM, Mt. Angel Performing Arts Center via Stagecraft wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We are in the preliminary stages of looking for a used scissor lift in
> the 20' platform height variety and electric powered.
>
> There are several in area auctions coming up in the next several of
> weeks and we don't really need one until February.
>
> The auction listings have hour meter readings on 10-year old units in
> the 200-400 hour range.
>
> That doesn't seem like a lot of hours but the units, from the auction
> catalog photos, have obviously seen a fair amount of use.
>
> What is the hour meter measuring? Hours the pump is pumping, or hours
> the lift is switched on and powered, or something else?
>
> We figure we may be able to purchase a used unit for about what a 60-90
> day rental would cost but if not then renting makes more sense. It's an
> item that would be 'nice to have available' but we've gotten along
> swimmingly so far without actually owning one.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Carla
>
> Fred's Bifurcate Law of Economic Independence: If you can't pay for it,
> don't buy it; and if you don't need it, don't buy it. Fred Reed - Fred
> on Everything
>
>
>
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I only ever seriously looked at one several years ago, and the hours
meter was connected to the hydraulic pump. But the hours meter is only
one part of the story.
Scissor lifts are hydraulic machines, so the pump and valve manifold are
the main wear items. Their driving speed is slow and most of their
motion is up and down. The battery bank gets lots of use, and is
probably the main maintenance item. Their usage at construction sites
is generally pretty hard, and maintenance is mostly just fix it when
it's broke, so there probably are no maintenance records to look at.
There should be some records of annual inspections by a recognized
service company. If this is from a construction equipment rental house
then their in-house shop can be doing this. Do they still have the
manuals? Read them.
So, assume the battery bank is mostly used up, and plan on replacing it
in a fairly short time. Depending on your usage of the thing, a mostly
worn down battery bank may be perfectly fine for your needs. Battery
bank is pretty expensive, and depending on the model you have, may be
ridiculously expensive. Prices of lead acid batteries have more of less
doubled in the last ten years, now that lead mines are unprofitable in
countries with environmental and worker safety laws.
Check the hydraulic system. Ideally by someone who has worked on them.
You are looking for leaks and signs of old leaks. Check the fluid
itself, and how much crap is in the filter and settled on the bottom of
the tank. Also water contamination. Fire up the pump and listen for
abnormal sounds. Look at every flexible hose for cracks, chafing and
leaks. Carefully look at all the pistons at maximum extension. Look
for anything that is not clean bright smooth metal, and leaks at gaskets.
Check the electrical system. Look for obvious problems, burn marks,
damaged wires, etc. Test the battery charger. Make sure the service
power outlet up on the platform still actually works when it is powered
from the ground, all the way up and down. Look at all flexible cables
for cracks, crushes, chafing, any other damage.
Look at the structure. Cracks, corrosion, bent metal, peeling paint are
all bad signs. Look at everything that has a grease fitting. Does it
look like the thing has been getting regular greasing? Any play in those
joints? rust and wear? Safety railings? Push hard on them to find any
inadequacies. Fall arrest clip on points if any. If there is a
extending platform, can one person of normal strength operate it?
Wheels and tires. Anything more than normal wear and tear? Some
models have outriggers that automatically deploy when the platform
elevates. Make sure they still work, this is a safety feature that is
often disabled by workers so they can drive around while elevated.
Take the thing for a test drive, make sure that it will go up and down
all the way. Turns and drives correctly. forward and reverse. Test
every control button while wiggling the cable on the control pendant.
The cable of the control pendant is also a common failure point,
intermittent opens a couple inches back from the control head usually.
Drive it around for at least ten minutes, you are exercising the machine
and also looking for a totally worn out battery bank. Don't forget to
test the second control point down at the bottom. This may be anything
from a full duplicate to just the emergency lowering valve. Verify
emergency stop button functionality. When you have it at maximum
altitude, start rocking the thing to see if it rattles or rocks
excessively.
As soon as you have finished the test drive, recheck the hydraulic
system for leaks and check the pump for hot spots. It should be warm to
the touch only. If it is uncomfortably warm or hot enough to burn your
fingers, then there is something wrong there that needs work. If you
have a thermal imaging camera, this is a good time to use it. Also test
the battery bank for hot spots, this could be a bad battery or
electrical connection.
As part of your purchase process, take it to whomever is going to be
your usual factory authorized repair shop for full inspection and
re-certification. Make the purchase contingent on the thing passing
this. Even if the repair shop is the people you are buying it from. Get
this in writing.
Good luck.
Dale
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