[SML] Sub-batten rigging suggestions....

Stephen Rees Stephen.Rees at fredonia.edu
Fri Sep 25 10:10:02 UTC 2015


Thanks, Bill. Yes, I did mean a round sling. Pardon my gaffe. Point taken.
Steve

Stephen E. Rees
RAC Addition Project Shepherd
State University of New York at Fredonia
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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Bill Sapsis via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> If, by Spanset you mean a synthetic roundsling*…Then yes….sort of…
>
> You cannot choke both ends of a roundsling.  You can choke one end but the
> other end will require a shackle or a similar device.
>
> My concern with using a roundsling is that it could possibly slip along
> the pipe.  As I’m sure you’ve seen, people, especially kids, love to grab
> on to legs and pull them around.  They could conceivably pull the leg hard
> enough to pull the sub-pipe out of the sling.  Yeah, I know it’s a bit
> farfetched but it could happen.
>
> With a chain/shackle/batten clamp assembly it can’t possibly happen.  I
> like that a lot better.
>
> *Spanset is a brand name that is sometimes used as the generic name for
> synthetic roundslings.  I’ve got nothing against Spanset but I do prefer to
> call rigging equipment by it’s proper name.  Makes for better accuracy.  I
> like accuracy.
>
> Thanks
> Bill
>
> bill at sapsis-rigging.com
> http://www.sapsis-rigging.com
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>
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Stephen Rees via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> Bill, in lieu of chain, might you consider two equal length spansets
> choked on both the system pipe and the sub-pipe?
> Just curious.
> Steve
>
> Stephen E. Rees
> RAC Addition Project Shepherd
> State University of New York at Fredonia
> 716.673.3208 Office
> 716.680.1565 Mobile
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Bill Sapsis via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>> You’re using proof coil chain so the WLL of the chain is gonna be,
>> what…maybe 10 times the weight of what you’re hanging. Use the chain.
>> Forget the turnbuckle.  They’re dumb.
>>
>> Rigger trick # 487
>>
>> If the height adjustment is off by something less than the length of a
>> link, give the chain a bit of a twist.  Not a full twist, mind you, because
>> then the links tend to climb up on one another.  A 1/4  or 1/2 twist will
>> take care of it.
>>
>> Bill S.
>>
>> bill at sapsis-rigging.com
>> http://www.sapsis-rigging.com
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>> +1.215.228.0888   x206
>>
>> (See?  I’m still here.  I don’t get involved in all those ‘electrical
>> discussions is all.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>
>> Howdy y'all.... directed at the installers/riggers out there.....  I'm
>> needing to install some sub-battens to hang some legs from the same
>> battens that some borders are on.... I intend to use proof coil, rated
>> hardware, schedule 40 for the shorty battens, et al... and I have a
>> question about what kibbles n bits are needed, and preferences of the
>> rigging masters.
>>
>> Two methods, as I see:
>>
>> Method One (from top batten down to sub-batten):
>>
>> Batten > Batten Clamp > Shackle  > Chain  > (can I use a turnbuckle
>> here?)  >  Shackle  > Chain > Sub-batten
>>
>> Method Two:
>> Batten > Batten Clamp > Shackle  > Chain  > Shackle  > Batten Clamp  >
>> Sub-batten
>>
>> The question in Method one: can I use a turnbuckle to better dial in
>> the height for leveling? Sometimes the difference is less than one
>> chain link. Chain drop is about 5 or 6 feet.
>>
>> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>>
>> --
>> Jon Ares
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