[SML] WAY, WAY, WAY O.T. : Death and Politics

[JIM VOGEL]

As a list lurker, I agree with all those saying “no politics, no religion” on the list.
Email isn’t a great forum for highly nuanced, highly emotional discussions around politics or religion. It’s hard enough to discuss those in person.
I joined the list for the mostly technical, sometimes policy, sometimes process discussions.

Back to lurking…..

From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sapsis via Stagecraft
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 5:08 PM
To: stagecraft at theatrical.net
Cc: Bill Sapsis <bill at sapsis-rigging.com>
Subject: Re: [SML] WAY, WAY, WAY O.T. : Death and Politics

Thanks, Bill, for that very explicit description.  There’s not enough mind bleach…….


Herrick, I would love to listen to a political discussion with this group.  But…..this group has proven itself unable to contain itself when emotions run high.  I need only point to the Frank Wood discussions as an excellent example.

Vitriol I can get anywhere.  I do not want it here.  I left for a while over the Frank Wood debacle and I would rather not have to do it again.  I also would rather not be forced into having to delete more stuff.  Sounds trite, I know, but I believe unwanted email, like spam, is a royal PITA and an invasion of my privacy.   I don’t want it cluttering up my in-box, forcing me to do something with it.

A FB chat group could be started  (No.   Not the one we already have there) and then we could go there when we wanted to rather than having it forced upon us.

??????

Bil S

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On Jan 23, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Bill Conner via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net<mailto:stagecraft at theatrical.net>> wrote:

Herrick - I think you missed the memo.  Don't shit or have sex in the lounge.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 1:01 PM, herrick goldman via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net<mailto:stagecraft at theatrical.net>> wrote:

Too bad,

This is one of the few threads I've clicked on in weeks. Thousands of
theater artists stood in times sq and around the country on Friday in a show
of solidarity.  It's on today's live design page..  thousands of union
workers marched on Saturday to protect workers rights.  And today it's
likely the nea gets cut and if betsy devos is confirmed it's likely that
arts disappear from our schools.  I submit that there's little that could be
more on topic to this community.

On Jan 23, 2017 1:42 PM, "Dave Vick via Stagecraft"
<stagecraft at theatrical.net<mailto:stagecraft at theatrical.net>> wrote:


Look,

You all know I've LONG been the proponent of the Mail List-as-Tavern
analogy here; that we gather here because of our mutual passion for the
performing arts... Right? But that, much like how in a biker bar, not all
conversations are about bikes, not every chat here necessarily revolves
around theatre craft...  I stand by that analogy, firmly.

BUT...

I also believe even more yfirmly there are some topics you Just Don't
Broach In Public.  You all know in my recreational hours I'm a devotee of
the competitive shooting sports, but I don't talk about guns here, out of
respect for others who have strong feelings on the topic. The two main
hot-button topics are Politics and Religion. LONG ago we all agreed those
topics DO NOT BELONG HERE.

Much as I may respect Chip and appreciate his post, the fact that Chip had
to preface his post with "Way, way, way OT" should be a prime indicator that
it shouldn't have been posted here. We aren't talking censorship; we're
talking common courtesy.

Y'all wanna fight about politics? I'd appreciate it if you'd move the
"discussion" over to MyFaceTubeSpaceBookThing. I'm just trying to run a
quiet little tavern here, and not have the glassware get all smashed up
every night...

[*retreating behind sinks*]
Now, I've got work to do. Y'all play nice now. Holler if you need a
cocktail or something; I'll be here cleaning pint glasses....


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Dave Vick 517-749-3859 Sent from my Electronic Euphemism

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