[SML] [EXTERNAL] Re: Old joke request

[sdwheaton]

I agree, a stagehand saying hang the blacks, or kill the baby, or put the knife in the dog, isn't trying to be shocking.  They are phrases that we use and mean something specific, to us...  maybe we can't ever refer to the black masking curtains in shorthand because the music might get soft just as we say it, and people won't understand, or maybe we can hope that the normal people will see a group of slightly weird people, on a lunch break, and know that we are very unlikely to be planning a lynching.  Most likely they all have work related phrases that might be similarly confusing.Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device-------- Original message --------From: "C. Andrew Dunning via Stagecraft" <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Date: 9/5/2019  2:38 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'Stagecraft Mailing List' <stagecraft at theatrical.net> Cc: "C. Andrew Dunning" <landrudesign at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SML] [EXTERNAL]  Re:  Old joke request The thing that strikes me about the topic of this thread is the baggage that goes with it.  I’m not at all saying that the baggage isn’t deserved.  It’s just that, in thinking about the 2 instances I mentioned, neither use of (now) questionable phrases was in the least-bit malicious.  My colleague and I having a laugh was our way of acknowledging the reality of what the words meant.  In the other case, while no offense had been taken, I still apologized.  No-one assumed intent that wasn’t there.  No-one got mad.  No-one called HR.  No-one lost a job.  We simply moved on. But…I’ll find other ways of saying things in the future. My 2¢US. C. Andrew DunningLandru Design-Nashville, TN, USA-cad at landrudesign.comlandrudesign@gmail.comlandrudesign at comcast.netwww.landrudesign.com      From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Kanyuck via StagecraftSent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 11:44 AMTo: Stagecraft Mailing ListCc: Jeffrey KanyuckSubject: Re: [SML] [EXTERNAL] Re: Old joke request As do I. I agree with how times have changed it just isn't appropriate.  From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of Rob Graham via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 7:03 AMTo: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>Cc: Rob Graham <photonguide at gmail.com>Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SML] Old joke request  Please use caution: This email was generated outside of HCC. I concur with June’s sentiment. The nature of that “joke” has always been the discomfort created by the implication of a racist sentiment.  On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:50 AM June Abernathy via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:I may be in the minority here, but I think some old jokes (and types of jokes) should be allowed to gracefully slip into the past. And I think the various iterations of the “hang the blacks” joke absolutely qualify as some that don’t necessarily need to be passed on to the next generation. I remember it from when I was a punk too. But sensibilities evolve over time, and I find it cringeworthy now. My .02cJune Abernathy IATSE #321 (Tampa, FL)FOH ElectricianThe Lion King National Tour____________________________________________________________For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>Stagecraft mailing listStagecraft at theatrical.nethttp://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net-- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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