[SML] Create a cue in blind: EOS

Tue Dec 14 18:47:11 UTC 2021

+1 on the ETC training videos.  Just about every day that I'm having to try
new stuff on the Ion, I've got Google open with the search bar populated
with "ETC EOS <insert need here>" and the videos are almost always the top
results.  During all the at-home time of the last 1+ years, I spent a lot
of time watching the videos, and although my old brain can't keep it all
in, I remember that there was a video that showed how to achieve a lot of
what I need. Love being able to see keystrokes/command lines in the videos.

 - Jon

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 10:16 AM Will Schuessler via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Thanks Greg and John! That cheat sheet seems like it will be super useful,
> and I'll definitely look into the ETC trainings. Glad to have the personal
> endorsement that they're well done and helpful.
> W
>
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 11:31 AM Greg Bierly via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>> Will, FWIW, I have been going through the same thing.
>>
>> Even though it is written for the Element I found the following “cheat
>> sheet” has proven helpful to have on hand.
>>
>>
>> https://www.schooltheatre.org/HigherLogic/System/DownloadDocumentFile.ashx?DocumentFileKey=06abd28b-9e98-4554-a4d6-2ad8714b2be3&forceDialog=0
>>
>> ETC also has trainers at events around the country and have a program you
>> can work with.  You can also download it all and do it on your own with
>> pretty clear step by step introductions.
>> https://www.etcconnect.com/Training/    I picked up copies of the “Eos
>> Family Console Programming” workbooks level 1 & 2 at a USITT chapter event
>> and using them as reference have been working great.
>>
>> Do a YouTube search on the topic you are trying to brush up on.  I just
>> found a great tutorial this weekend on setting up LED fixtures for busking
>> on an Ion console.  I never would have figured it out on my own.
>>
>> Link. How to add Colormixing Submasters on the Ion Xe
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5OP1rweaaE>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5OP1rweaaE
>> I thought I got the gist of the setup but as predicted in the video, I
>> created very weird results.  When I followed the instructions step by step
>> it came out perfectly.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Greg Bierly
>> Performing Arts Center Coordinator
>> Hempfield High School
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Will Schuessler via Stagecraft <
>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>
>> Piggybacking with a related question: Mostly sound and video guy here,
>> who used to be able to get by on basic lighting 10-15 years ago, just
>> before tracking boards mainstreamed. Now I'm in a position where it would
>> be handy to be able to program a board again and trying to wrap my head
>> around the tracking paradigm is kicking my ass. Are there any resources out
>> there like "What to do when you keep wanting to hit Release: A guide to the
>> Ion Xe for people who were alright on an Insight"? The manual would be
>> great if I were trying to learn from scratch, but it's not the clearest for
>> re-training.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 7:43 AM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone for suggestions/methods. I'll have to run through a few
>>> of these when I have a bit of time with nothing on stage. The board op did
>>> make a "blackout" cue live, and tried copying, but it was not always
>>> working. Then stuff got tracked into other cues, then fixes caused more
>>> problems, and the cascade continued.  What a mess. :)  But she did a good
>>> job of keeping cool, and kept a couple of "safety" cues on submasters, and
>>> even did some color changes au vista.  The on-the-fly blackouts were the
>>> biggest challenge, particularly without a dedicated intensity-only
>>> grandmaster on the Ion XE 20. One more thing to explore.
>>>
>>>  - Jon
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 6:24 AM Paul Graham via Stagecraft <
>>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Morning,
>>>>
>>>> Was talking to the training department this morning, guess we need to
>>>> make a new video and get it added.
>>>>
>>>> This is what my friend Ellen said:
>>>>
>>>> The above statement type [cue] 12.5 [enter] [enter] is how you create
>>>> a cue in Blind, but it will have all the tracking levels in the new cue.
>>>> They then need to do the [Select Active] [Cue Only] [Out] [Enter]. The
>>>> easier way may be to create a blackout cue in Live and then copy it where
>>>> they need it. The important thing there is that they do a [Shift]& [Block]
>>>> on the original cue before they copy it.
>>>>
>>>> Happy cueing!
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> on behalf of
>>>> Mike Locke via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 12, 2021 5:35 PM
>>>> *To:* Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>>>> *Cc:* Mike Locke <mike at mikelocke.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [SML] Create a cue in blind: EOS
>>>>
>>>> After creating the cue: Select Active > Out. Shift+Block for an
>>>> intensity block.
>>>>
>>>> If you have cues after programmed you may want Q Only before the Out.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 12, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
>>>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Excellent - that adds a cue in there. Yay. But a problem my board op is
>>>> having (now) is trying to add/build blackouts in between existing cues...
>>>> stuff is getting messed up left and right,  <sigh>. Anyone know a quick -n-
>>>> easy way to add blackouts in Blind?
>>>>
>>>>  - Jon
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 11:59 AM John McAfee <jrpmcafee at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You should be able to type [cue] 12.5 [enter] [enter]
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 12, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
>>>> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Hey folks.... the manual doesn't explain/have examples of how you
>>>> create a completely new cue in Blind mode in EOS software (Ion board) -
>>>> just how to edit an existing cue.  Example: have a Cue 12, and want to add
>>>> a Cue 12.5 with a couple of parameters changed... in blind.  How do you
>>>> record the 12.5 bit?  Google isn't turning up anything either....
>>>>
>>>> TIA....
>>>>
>>>>  - Jon
>>>>
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