[SML] CPAC Stage Design

Stephen Litterst litterst.stagecraft at gmail.com
Thu Mar 4 21:46:51 UTC 2021


Ok, sounds like we need to stage a tropical shirt rally to seize back the symbology of relaxing on the beach!

I’m in, as soon as it warms up a bit more here.


Stephen Litterst
ETCP - Certified Entertainment Electrician
slitterst at gmail.com



> On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Ford Sellers via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> 
> This.
> All of this.
> 
> Learning not to signal OK, because some group of a-holes co-opted the hand sign is BS.
> Likewise my large collection of tropical shirts... 
> 
> ...thankfully, I never was that into Tiki-Torches.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Ford
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> On Behalf Of Mick Alderson via Stagecraft
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:51 PM
> To: stagecraft at theatrical.net
> Cc: Mick Alderson <mick.alderson at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [SML] CPAC Stage Design
> 
> And hate groups keep appropriating symbols. During load-out of the last concert I worked as a down-rigger before Covid shut us down, someone 20 feet away asked me to do something. It was noisy, so I flashed an OK sign to indicate I understood, as I have done all my life. I did not receive the response I expected. I did not know white suprematists has co-opted the sign. Then there are aloha shirts. I have several and like wearing them in the summer, but given their prominence at protests and counter-protests, I did not feel comfortable wearing them in 2020, for fear of sending a message I didn’t intend. What had been perfectly innocent now means something unpleasant.
> 
> It’s nothing new. My great grand-mother made a quilt in the 1880’s or 90’s for my grandmother. It which was passed down has a family heirloom to my cousin who destroyed it, because it had a decorative border of small vertical (not tilted) swastikas. Before the 1930’s it just was a good luck symbol and a sun symbol in MANY cultures world wide. I love reading about archeology. So far as I knew, the Othal Rune was just the letter “o” in the Elder Furthark runic alphabet. I ran across it in articles about neolithic standing stones in pre-Christian northern Europe. Before last summer, I had no idea it too had been appropriated and had become a hate symbol. If you aren’t in that culture, how would you know?
> 
>> On 3/3/2021 7:57 AM, Dougherty, Jim via Stagecraft wrote:
>>> Here?s a lexicon of hate symbols; it?s not all swastikas and 
>>> lightning bolts.
>>> 
>>> ?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.adl.org/hate-symbols__;!!J_x
>>> 18tFw!a0SaRR2xIzM-g1bTqHgNz0UouLRBuTR89g6o_-gM4hhOhMBi5ucLwUmRIy4uuyd
>>> zY5F5aQ$  
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.adl.org/hate-symbols__;!!J_x
>>> 18tFw!a0SaRR2xIzM-g1bTqHgNz0UouLRBuTR89g6o_-gM4hhOhMBi5ucLwUmRIy4uuyd
>>> zY5F5aQ$ >
>>> 
>>> - ?Jim Dougherty
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>> Skimming just the first couple of pages, and nearly all of them were 
>> new to me.  I guess that proves I've never been in prison, as most of them
>> seem to be associated with prison gangs.   There are a bewildering 
>> complexity of symbols on that page.  Certainly more than my poor brain 
>> can retain.  How is a designer supposed to know and not use any of 
>> those symbols? What reasonable due diligence?
>> 
>> This brings up another question.  Are there any symbols that are not 
>> hate symbols to some group or another? The ancient Inca's, for 
>> instance, would certainly regard the christian cross as one, as the 
>> Spaniards and Catholic Church subjugated them to slavery, forced 
>> conversion, and death during the conquest of central america.
>> 
>> Dale
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