[SML] CPAC Stage Design

[Jon Ares]

I haven't learned what the co-opted tropical attire now means....
what happened to the days when we only had to be concerned about the
color and pattern of the handkerchief hanging from our back pocket?
(And which pocket it was in?)

 - Jon

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 1:51 PM Stephen Litterst via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> Ok, sounds like we need to stage a tropical shirt rally to seize back the symbology of relaxing on the beach!
>
> I’m in, as soon as it warms up a bit more here.
>
>
> Stephen Litterst
> ETCP - Certified Entertainment Electrician
> slitterst at gmail.com
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>
>
> > On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Ford Sellers via Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> >
> > This.
> > All of this.
> >
> > Learning not to signal OK, because some group of a-holes co-opted the hand sign is BS.
> > Likewise my large collection of tropical shirts...
> >
> > ...thankfully, I never was that into Tiki-Torches.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Ford
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> On Behalf Of Mick Alderson via Stagecraft
> > Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:51 PM
> > To: stagecraft at theatrical.net
> > Cc: Mick Alderson <mick.alderson at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [SML] CPAC Stage Design
> >
> > And hate groups keep appropriating symbols. During load-out of the last concert I worked as a down-rigger before Covid shut us down, someone 20 feet away asked me to do something. It was noisy, so I flashed an OK sign to indicate I understood, as I have done all my life. I did not receive the response I expected. I did not know white suprematists has co-opted the sign. Then there are aloha shirts. I have several and like wearing them in the summer, but given their prominence at protests and counter-protests, I did not feel comfortable wearing them in 2020, for fear of sending a message I didn’t intend. What had been perfectly innocent now means something unpleasant.
> >
> > It’s nothing new. My great grand-mother made a quilt in the 1880’s or 90’s for my grandmother. It which was passed down has a family heirloom to my cousin who destroyed it, because it had a decorative border of small vertical (not tilted) swastikas. Before the 1930’s it just was a good luck symbol and a sun symbol in MANY cultures world wide. I love reading about archeology. So far as I knew, the Othal Rune was just the letter “o” in the Elder Furthark runic alphabet. I ran across it in articles about neolithic standing stones in pre-Christian northern Europe. Before last summer, I had no idea it too had been appropriated and had become a hate symbol. If you aren’t in that culture, how would you know?
> >
> >> On 3/3/2021 7:57 AM, Dougherty, Jim via Stagecraft wrote:
> >>> Here?s a lexicon of hate symbols; it?s not all swastikas and
> >>> lightning bolts.
> >>>
> >>> ?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.adl.org/hate-symbols__;!!J_x
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> >>> - ?Jim Dougherty
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> >> Skimming just the first couple of pages, and nearly all of them were
> >> new to me.  I guess that proves I've never been in prison, as most of them
> >> seem to be associated with prison gangs.   There are a bewildering
> >> complexity of symbols on that page.  Certainly more than my poor brain
> >> can retain.  How is a designer supposed to know and not use any of
> >> those symbols? What reasonable due diligence?
> >>
> >> This brings up another question.  Are there any symbols that are not
> >> hate symbols to some group or another? The ancient Inca's, for
> >> instance, would certainly regard the christian cross as one, as the
> >> Spaniards and Catholic Church subjugated them to slavery, forced
> >> conversion, and death during the conquest of central america.
> >>
> >> Dale
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