[SML] We need a new cyc

[Bill Conner]

Jon - I think any size but definitely to 50' or taller by any length. I
specified them with pipe pocket with gaps win pocket where pipes join and a
skirt or flap that is just a little longer than pocket.  Edges are a vinyl
hem with grommets. I don't think they can be beat for durability, much less
fragile than leno or muslin, easy to clean, and easy to repair a tear.  And
permanently flame retardant.  Probably 2 to 2 1/2 times cost of leno, but
I've been out of checking prices for several years. Not something I've kept
up on in retirement.

Best wishes

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021, 12:57 PM Richard Niederberg via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I've had good luck with a dark blue scrim hanging in front of a sky blue
> cyc with #8 Jack Chain in the lower pocket for weight so it hangs straight
> on a curved track.
> /s/ Richard
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 8:52 AM David Bowman via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey gang,
>>
>>
>>
>> I know it would be more pricey, but we’ve (mostly) gotten away from using
>> a tradition muslin (or similar) cyc and now almost always just use our
>> Rosco Twin-White RP (purchased from Rosebrand, but I don’t recall the cost)
>> as a cyc surface.  Because it’s a Twin-White, it works for both front and
>> rear whether it’s lighting or projections, it picks-up and transmits the
>> light really well. We have the ability via ties on the sides, but have not
>> found a need to stretch it in any way, other than a bottom pipe. We did
>> find that one should remove the bottom pipe when not in use as the RP
>> material has “fused” itself to the pipe we have in there, and we are
>> terrified of tearing the goods, so it now has a “permanent” bottom pipe.
>> Since it always stays in the tower, it’s not really an issue. 😊
>>
>>
>>
>> Only downside is you for sure don’t want to fold it unless you have a ton
>> of time to let it hang and stretch the creases/wrinkles back out.  Ours is
>> always on a lineset in the fly tower, even if it’s not in a show…..
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> David M. Bowman
>>
>> Master Electrician/Lighting and Projections Supervisor
>>
>> Part-Time Instructor
>>
>> Syracuse Stage and S.U. Drama
>>
>> dmbowman at syr.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> * On Behalf Of *George
>> Davidson via Stagecraft
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2021 10:58 AM
>> *To:* stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>> *Cc:* George Davidson <george at georgedavidson.ca>
>> *Subject:* Re: [SML] We need a new cyc
>>
>>
>>
>> Bills Suggestion of a truss is great for a full frame, you can even look
>> at the cheaper Global Truss I beam truss as it takes up less space
>>
>> I have always had good luck with just using a bottom pipe, Rigid conduit
>> works well as it comes in 10 ft lengths and comes pre threaded with couplers
>>
>> 1/2 in is usually enough, if you go too heavy the centre of the bottom of
>> the cyc will stretch and sag, for a new cyc, you want the centre to bow up
>> slightly so that it has somewhere to settle as the fabric stretches, if
>> your looking for a pipe for a scrim, i prefer PVC pipe as its lighter
>>
>> When picking materials, there are a few things to consider, front or rear
>> projection, seamed or seamless and what its used for
>>
>> for cyc lights, nothing catches the light like a cotton cyc, its the
>> little threads on the surface, PVC often reflects more which may or may not
>> be an issue, if you take your cyc down or have it on a track, PVC and
>> Polyester tend to get fold creases, IFR fabrics are not as soft (lighting
>> wise) but can be sharper for projections, seamed cycs are not as nice for
>> rear projection, but some seams are invisable
>>
>>
>>
>> George
>>
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