[SML] Android tablet OK for sound board app?

Mon Jan 30 16:52:42 UTC 2023

When we design and specify audio and lighting systems/networks with
app-enabled consoles for schools or other institutional clients, it is
common to include an access-point in the spec so the users can enable their
own wireless connection without having to touch the campus network. Ideally
we'll even have the integrator run suitable category cable with a suitable
dedicated receptacle plate up on a catwalk location back to the main console
or rack housing the audio (or lighting) network switch. If the actual
purchase of the device (iPad for instance) is an issue on a campus, we'll
add that to the spec as well.

Keeping all these networks separate in most theatrical venues usually makes
sense from an operational point of view. And, as long as one is not relying
on an IT department or similar entity for the actual technical support,
there seems to be little push-back. It's important to stress to those who do
push back that, even though this looks like IT, these are distinct
entertainment technology systems, and the need to be respected and managed
by the professionals who are responsible for running the show....

Fritz Schwentker
fschwentker at wjhw.com 
Associate Principal
WJHW, Inc.

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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 12:42:31 -0800
From: Jon Ares <jonares at arescreative.com>
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Subject: [SML] Android tablet OK for sound board app?
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Howdy folks -

I've configured/used iPads with sound boards (using their apps) - Soundcraft
and Midas.... and now we have an Allen & Heath.  Our IT head *hates*
anything Apple, and is refusing to let us buy an iPad to connect to the new
board.  (It's just a tool, but we've beat that horse too long, and now it's
time to move on.). Anywho.... any reason we shouldn't use an Android-based
tablet with our A&H? Anyone doing that? Anything to be aware of? Again, it's
only a tool to use with this sound board, so not about web browsing, email,
astronomy apps, FaceTube, fantasy football, etc.... just the A&H app.

 - Jon

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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 14:04:38 -0800
From: Richard Niederberg <ladesigners at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [SML] Android tablet OK for sound board app?
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Dear Jon.
Please tell us the results of this impasse.
/s/ Richard Niederberg

On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 12:45 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Howdy folks -
>
> I've configured/used iPads with sound boards (using their apps) -
> Soundcraft and Midas.... and now we have an Allen & Heath.  Our IT
> head *hates* anything Apple, and is refusing to let us buy an iPad to
> connect to the new board.  (It's just a tool, but we've beat that
> horse too long, and now it's time to move on.). Anywho.... any reason
> we shouldn't use an Android-based tablet with our A&H? Anyone doing
> that? Anything to be aware of? Again, it's only a tool to use with
> this sound board, so not about web browsing, email, astronomy apps,
> FaceTube, fantasy football, etc.... just the A&H app.
>
>  - Jon
>
> --
> Jon Ares
> www.arescreative.com
>
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 17:00:06 -0600
From: Kenneth Zinkl <kzinkl at sbcglobal.net>
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If you have a QU I believe you have to use an iPad to control the board,
but I think everything from SQ on up has apps for iPad, Android, and
Windows. Don't get the cheapest android tablet and you should be fine. If
you go with an Amazon Fire Tablet (Technically Android) make sure the
Amazon app store has the app you need. I've had mixed success installing
the Google services that are needed to access the Play Store.
Ken

On Sat, Jan 28, 2023, 2:44 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> Howdy folks -
>
> I've configured/used iPads with sound boards (using their apps) -
> Soundcraft and Midas.... and now we have an Allen & Heath.  Our IT
> head *hates* anything Apple, and is refusing to let us buy an iPad to
> connect to the new board.  (It's just a tool, but we've beat that
> horse too long, and now it's time to move on.). Anywho.... any reason
> we shouldn't use an Android-based tablet with our A&H? Anyone doing
> that? Anything to be aware of? Again, it's only a tool to use with
> this sound board, so not about web browsing, email, astronomy apps,
> FaceTube, fantasy football, etc.... just the A&H app.
>
>  - Jon
>
> --
> Jon Ares
> www.arescreative.com
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:20:24 -0800
From: Jon Ares <jonares at arescreative.com>
To: Stagecraft Mailing List <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
Subject: Re: [SML] Android tablet OK for sound board app?
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I believe my colleague was preparing to get a Samsung Galaxy A8 for
use with our SQ-7. Never used an Android tablet, but I do know that
some people have to use some creativity with Amazon Fire tablets to
get apps from the Google Play store, so I recommended to him to avoid
anything like that, and stick with a mainstream Android tablet maker
like Samsung.

The annoying (blessing?) thing is the IT department does pretty much
nothing to supply/support the performing arts center (too much
specialty equipment that's out of their comfort zone) - so it's always
so frustrating when they actually try to insert themselves in our
purchasing of "tools" to do our specialty work.  But that's a rant for
another time.

 - Jon

On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 3:06 PM Kenneth Zinkl via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
> If you have a QU I believe you have to use an iPad to control the board,
but I think everything from SQ on up has apps for iPad, Android, and
Windows. Don't get the cheapest android tablet and you should be fine. If
you go with an Amazon Fire Tablet (Technically Android) make sure the Amazon
app store has the app you need. I've had mixed success installing the Google
services that are needed to access the Play Store.
> Ken
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023, 2:44 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft
<stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>>
>> Howdy folks -
>>
>> I've configured/used iPads with sound boards (using their apps) -
>> Soundcraft and Midas.... and now we have an Allen & Heath.  Our IT
>> head *hates* anything Apple, and is refusing to let us buy an iPad to
>> connect to the new board.  (It's just a tool, but we've beat that
>> horse too long, and now it's time to move on.). Anywho.... any reason
>> we shouldn't use an Android-based tablet with our A&H? Anyone doing
>> that? Anything to be aware of? Again, it's only a tool to use with
>> this sound board, so not about web browsing, email, astronomy apps,
>> FaceTube, fantasy football, etc.... just the A&H app.
>>
>>  - Jon
>>
>> --
>> Jon Ares
>> www.arescreative.com
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>> Stagecraft mailing list
>> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
>> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:29:26 -0800
From: Richard Niederberg <ladesigners at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [SML] Android tablet OK for sound board app?
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Actually, It is a Rant for THiS time.
/s/ Richard

On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 3:22 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I believe my colleague was preparing to get a Samsung Galaxy A8 for
> use with our SQ-7. Never used an Android tablet, but I do know that
> some people have to use some creativity with Amazon Fire tablets to
> get apps from the Google Play store, so I recommended to him to avoid
> anything like that, and stick with a mainstream Android tablet maker
> like Samsung.
>
> The annoying (blessing?) thing is the IT department does pretty much
> nothing to supply/support the performing arts center (too much
> specialty equipment that's out of their comfort zone) - so it's always
> so frustrating when they actually try to insert themselves in our
> purchasing of "tools" to do our specialty work.  But that's a rant for
> another time.
>
>  - Jon
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 3:06 PM Kenneth Zinkl via Stagecraft
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> >
> > If you have a QU I believe you have to use an iPad to control the board,
> but I think everything from SQ on up has apps for iPad, Android, and
> Windows. Don't get the cheapest android tablet and you should be fine. If
> you go with an Amazon Fire Tablet (Technically Android) make sure the
> Amazon app store has the app you need. I've had mixed success installing
> the Google services that are needed to access the Play Store.
> > Ken
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023, 2:44 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Howdy folks -
> >>
> >> I've configured/used iPads with sound boards (using their apps) -
> >> Soundcraft and Midas.... and now we have an Allen & Heath.  Our IT
> >> head *hates* anything Apple, and is refusing to let us buy an iPad to
> >> connect to the new board.  (It's just a tool, but we've beat that
> >> horse too long, and now it's time to move on.). Anywho.... any reason
> >> we shouldn't use an Android-based tablet with our A&H? Anyone doing
> >> that? Anything to be aware of? Again, it's only a tool to use with
> >> this sound board, so not about web browsing, email, astronomy apps,
> >> FaceTube, fantasy football, etc.... just the A&H app.
> >>
> >>  - Jon
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jon Ares
> >> www.arescreative.com
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________________
> >> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> >> Stagecraft mailing list
> >> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> >> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________
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> > Stagecraft mailing list
> > Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> > http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Ares
> www.arescreative.com
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 15:50:29 -0800
From: Charlie Richmond <charlie.rsd at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [SML] Android tablet OK for sound board app?
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IT rules were one of the biggest obstacles to theatre departments buying
our Amiga based systems back in the day.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 3:22 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:

> I believe my colleague was preparing to get a Samsung Galaxy A8 for
> use with our SQ-7. Never used an Android tablet, but I do know that
> some people have to use some creativity with Amazon Fire tablets to
> get apps from the Google Play store, so I recommended to him to avoid
> anything like that, and stick with a mainstream Android tablet maker
> like Samsung.
>
> The annoying (blessing?) thing is the IT department does pretty much
> nothing to supply/support the performing arts center (too much
> specialty equipment that's out of their comfort zone) - so it's always
> so frustrating when they actually try to insert themselves in our
> purchasing of "tools" to do our specialty work.  But that's a rant for
> another time.
>
>  - Jon
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 3:06 PM Kenneth Zinkl via Stagecraft
> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> >
> > If you have a QU I believe you have to use an iPad to control the board,
> but I think everything from SQ on up has apps for iPad, Android, and
> Windows. Don't get the cheapest android tablet and you should be fine. If
> you go with an Amazon Fire Tablet (Technically Android) make sure the
> Amazon app store has the app you need. I've had mixed success installing
> the Google services that are needed to access the Play Store.
> > Ken
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023, 2:44 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
> stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Howdy folks -
> >>
> >> I've configured/used iPads with sound boards (using their apps) -
> >> Soundcraft and Midas.... and now we have an Allen & Heath.  Our IT
> >> head *hates* anything Apple, and is refusing to let us buy an iPad to
> >> connect to the new board.  (It's just a tool, but we've beat that
> >> horse too long, and now it's time to move on.). Anywho.... any reason
> >> we shouldn't use an Android-based tablet with our A&H? Anyone doing
> >> that? Anything to be aware of? Again, it's only a tool to use with
> >> this sound board, so not about web browsing, email, astronomy apps,
> >> FaceTube, fantasy football, etc.... just the A&H app.
> >>
> >>  - Jon
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jon Ares
> >> www.arescreative.com
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________________
> >> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> >> Stagecraft mailing list
> >> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> >> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > Stagecraft mailing list
> > Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> > http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Ares
> www.arescreative.com
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> For list information see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> Stagecraft mailing list
> Stagecraft at theatrical.net
> http://theatrical.net/mailman/listinfo/stagecraft_theatrical.net
>

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