[SML] box booms

[Stuart Wheaton]

If the goal is a smooth sidewall for acoustical & easthetic purposes for 
music events or speakers, could the box booms have a door over them that 
swings out to reveal the box booms only during theatre shows?

Stuart Wheaton


On 2/19/2024 3:07 PM, Bill Conner via Stagecraft wrote:
> I should add not all the architects.  Schools choose to enter an 
> agreement with a CM (construction manager) with a GMP 
> (guaranteed maximum price) because of bad experiences (way over 
> budget) using the design, bid, build approach. There is tremendous 
> incentive on the part of the CM to minimize costs once this agreement 
> is in place.  I can only imagine that the individuals are highly 
> incentivised to reduce actual costs, since any reductions are mostly 
> additional profits to the CM.
>
> Not in my opinion a good system but designers - I'll include 
> consultants in that group - too many times were optimistic in their 
> estimating.  So a school, with a finite amount of money based on a 
> bond issue voted on by the public, needs to know they won't spend more 
> and GMPs do that - the guarantee.
>
> Not sorry I'm mostly out of it.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 2:57 PM Bill Conner <billconnerastc at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     Yeah.  I can see 21 ft booms not anchored.. That's my last goto.
>
>     On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 2:15 PM Steven Haworth via Stagecraft
>     <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>         I agree - don't give up Bill!
>         Those box boom positions are crucial to so many decent
>         designs, IMO.
>
>         Perhaps you could attempt an argument that if you don't build
>         them - and properly - then some student production down the
>         road is going to try jerry rigging something which would be
>         unsafe to rig, and unsafe for the audience?
>
>         On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 12:39 PM Ford Sellers via Stagecraft
>         <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>
>             Don’t give up.
>
>             *From:*Stagecraft <stagecraft-bounces at theatrical.net> *On
>             Behalf Of *Bill Conner via Stagecraft
>             *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 10:12 AM
>             *To:* Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net>
>             *Cc:* Bill Conner <billconnerastc at gmail.com>
>             *Subject:* [SML] box booms
>
>             I'm working with an architect who is resisting having a
>             lighting position on the cheek walls of a new 700 seat
>             theatre with 15' of forestage. I showed horizontal rails,
>             vertical rails, and coves with and without access behind.
>             He showed on picture of a HS theate without.  And the
>             school does pride themselves on the their performing arts
>             program.
>
>             First, a lesson. Once you retire, don't un-retire no
>             matter what, even for just one gig.
>
>             So, group, should I keep insisting on a box boom lighting
>             position or give up?
>
>             I have a rail on the rear wall also, a "balcony rail"
>             position, which I'm guessing will get attacked also.  I
>             just keep remembering Tom Skelton saying repeatedly "rail
>             is best".
>
>             Thanks!
>
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