[SML] Floors again

[christopher R. pike]

Kristi, can you accept my request to join the facebook page ? thanks.

On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 6:44 PM Kristi R-C via Stagecraft <
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> On Sunday, October 13, 2024, 07:08:37 PM CDT, christopher R. pike via
> Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
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> I have a question about sprung floors.  Can I post some pictures here?  I
> tried a few minutes ago and my message was rejected.
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> On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 4:43 AM Bill Conner via Stagecraft <
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> I can't explain the screws snapping in the floor you worked on previously
> if it was plyron, since plyron is simply plywood with 1/8" hardboard outer
> plies. Should not different than hardboard on ply you have now.
>
> I did soecify a particular particle board like product on, iirc, 2 stages.
> It was a product designed for covering industrial timber floors, in
> particular fabric mills.  Very high resistance to steel wheeled casters.
> Came predrilled and countersunk.  It broke screws but both places quickly
> learned to get better screws, not big box drywall screws, thankfully. Held
> paint great.
>
> I'll just add that of the high school stages I've specified plyron for
> over 20 years, I don't believe any of them have had to replace or recover
> their floor.  I don't believe hardwood veneered ply will last that long.
>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024, 5:56 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
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> All you Plyron folk out there - must be nice to have money, or
> something. In my spaces (19 years and counting) - we have 1/4"
> tempered hardboard over 3/4 or 4/4 plywood (on sleepers, neoprene,
> etc).... This sacrificial top layer has been replaced twice in 19
> years, and is hopefully going to be replaced a third time in the next
> couple of years.  Overall, our stage floors still look great. They get
> one coat of Breakthrough a year, and we do screw into them, as needed.
>
> Eons ago, I was working on a soundstage with a Plyron floor, and
> screws were snapping right and left.  Was not a fan. And didn't envy
> the people in charge of that studio.
>
>  - Jon
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> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 9:23 AM Bill Conner via Stagecraft
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> > Well, fwiw, my stage floor top down is 3/4" plyron, 1 1/8" ply  2x4
> sleepers 24" on center, and 3/4" neoprene. I switched from 1/2" plyron
> years ago when I started putting stage edge warning lights in, which are a
> 1/2" deep.  Needed 3/4" top to route 1/2" deep.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 5, 2024, 11:29 AM Duncan Mahoney via Stagecraft <
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> >> 3 of our theaters have sprung plywood floors with a top layer of MDF.
> I prefer a top layer thicker than 1/4" if the thickness can be
> accommodated.  Performance has been good, we have only had to replace
> floors after floods.
> >>
> >> I would not want a plywood floor without a top layer of something that
> would not splinter.
> >>
> >> Duncan Mahoney
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