[SML] Floors again

[Bill Conner]

I think you can attach a PDF as well.

On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 1:39 PM christopher R. pike via Stagecraft <
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>> On Sunday, October 13, 2024, 07:08:37 PM CDT, christopher R. pike via
>> Stagecraft <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
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>> I have a question about sprung floors.  Can I post some pictures here?  I
>> tried a few minutes ago and my message was rejected.
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>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 4:43 AM Bill Conner via Stagecraft <
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>> I can't explain the screws snapping in the floor you worked on previously
>> if it was plyron, since plyron is simply plywood with 1/8" hardboard outer
>> plies. Should not different than hardboard on ply you have now.
>>
>> I did soecify a particular particle board like product on, iirc, 2
>> stages. It was a product designed for covering industrial timber floors, in
>> particular fabric mills.  Very high resistance to steel wheeled casters.
>> Came predrilled and countersunk.  It broke screws but both places quickly
>> learned to get better screws, not big box drywall screws, thankfully. Held
>> paint great.
>>
>> I'll just add that of the high school stages I've specified plyron for
>> over 20 years, I don't believe any of them have had to replace or recover
>> their floor.  I don't believe hardwood veneered ply will last that long.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024, 5:56 PM Jon Ares via Stagecraft <
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>> All you Plyron folk out there - must be nice to have money, or
>> something. In my spaces (19 years and counting) - we have 1/4"
>> tempered hardboard over 3/4 or 4/4 plywood (on sleepers, neoprene,
>> etc).... This sacrificial top layer has been replaced twice in 19
>> years, and is hopefully going to be replaced a third time in the next
>> couple of years.  Overall, our stage floors still look great. They get
>> one coat of Breakthrough a year, and we do screw into them, as needed.
>>
>> Eons ago, I was working on a soundstage with a Plyron floor, and
>> screws were snapping right and left.  Was not a fan. And didn't envy
>> the people in charge of that studio.
>>
>>  - Jon
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>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2024 at 9:23 AM Bill Conner via Stagecraft
>> <stagecraft at theatrical.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, fwiw, my stage floor top down is 3/4" plyron, 1 1/8" ply  2x4
>> sleepers 24" on center, and 3/4" neoprene. I switched from 1/2" plyron
>> years ago when I started putting stage edge warning lights in, which are a
>> 1/2" deep.  Needed 3/4" top to route 1/2" deep.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 5, 2024, 11:29 AM Duncan Mahoney via Stagecraft <
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>> >> 3 of our theaters have sprung plywood floors with a top layer of MDF.
>> I prefer a top layer thicker than 1/4" if the thickness can be
>> accommodated.  Performance has been good, we have only had to replace
>> floors after floods.
>> >>
>> >> I would not want a plywood floor without a top layer of something that
>> would not splinter.
>> >>
>> >> Duncan Mahoney
>> >> Technical Director
>> >> Professor of Theater Practice in Production
>> >> USC School of Dramatic Arts
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